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Date: 5/17/2020 5:46:03 AM
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What is the difference between doctors with speciality Massage and Sports Psychologist? And who is better to keep up the game shape?

From Game manual :

Doctors speciality Massage: "Players who play too many minutes in a given week will not experience as severe a drop in game shape".

Sports Psychologist  "will help with the the players' state of mind. Sometimes, no matter the minutes, some of your most important players just can't hit their best form in the worst of times, like the playoffs, etc... This is where this guy comes in handy - he'll make sure they have their heads straight and will help keep their form up, even if the minutes are suboptimal".


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I have a level 7 sport psychologist to get my NT player in shape. He played 62 minutes for the week and last Friday he stayed at level 7 form. Not pleased with him :(

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Hidden trait on players as to which of those effects their game shape more.
like the hidden traits for foul prone or injury prone.

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They so different things as the manual says: the doctor help if your players play too many minutes compared to an optimal range, the psychologist will increase GS after minutes, luck and doctor are factored in, raising the GS level of all players.

As a rule of thumb go for massage of you have an unbalanced team with starters who are way better than the backups (unless you can get garbage time every week, your starters will play too many minutes if they start 2 games). The psychologist will help regardless, because part of the GS is still down to luck, but of course it is more useful with teams that can't hit optimal minute ranges consistently.

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Date: 5/18/2020 5:24:22 AM
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I have a level 7 sport psychologist to get my NT player in shape. He played 62 minutes for the week and last Friday he stayed at level 7 form. Not pleased with him


I am close to you mate!
Game Shape is so unpredictable that i am not going to spend too much money with staff.
I am tryng to learn what is best specialist for my team.

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Date: 5/18/2020 5:26:19 AM
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Hidden trait on players as to which of those effects their game shape more.
like the hidden traits for foul prone or injury prone.


I agree! GS is strongly influenced by random, as foul prone and injury prone.

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Date: 5/18/2020 5:50:36 AM
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As a rule of thumb go for massage of you have an unbalanced team with starters who are way better than the backups (unless you can get garbage time every week, your starters will play too many minutes if they start 2 games)


So you think that if starters play too much minutes (than the optimal ones) it is necessary to have a doctor massage.

. The psychologist will help regardless, because part of the GS is still down to luck, but of course it is more useful with teams that can't hit optimal minute ranges consistently.


While if you have a consistently range between played minutes and optimal minutes it is more useful a psychologist.
Is it correct?

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So you think that if starters play too much minutes (than the optimal ones) it is necessary to have a doctor massage.
It's not mandatory, I'm just saying that's what Massage specialty is for.

While if you have a consistently range between played minutes and optimal minutes it is more useful a psychologist.
Is it correct?
A psychologist will improve the GS compared to what you'd have had without him, so he will improve any player who would have not been at 9 GS if you didn't have him.

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Date: 5/19/2020 12:34:37 AM
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Massage Doctor helps players stay in better shape when they play too many minutes.

Sports Psychologist helps players stay in and get to better shape when they're in a good minutes range and just gives them an additional boost.

That's as simple as I can explain it and I think gets the point across in a basic way.

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Date: 5/20/2020 2:05:09 PM
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Get both.

I remember, used to have around 8.2-8.3 average GS season long (not counting first 2weeks), with alittle bit constantly overplaying players 80 mins each week.

With both i think it is possible to average around 8.5-8.6. That is pretty huge, overall using 2nd season lvl 5 psychologist, very happy with the results.

Loot at the situation from other perspective: would you pay 15k (psychologist salary) to get 1 player per week at 9 game shapre instead of 8; i think that is the overall difference. And the more expensive and important players are, and the more competetive leage, basicly it means few wins per season, playoffs/no playoffs and promotions versus boiling in your own juices in the same league next season.

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Date: 5/21/2020 12:06:51 PM
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Massage Doctor helps players stay in better shape when they play too many minutes.

Sports Psychologist helps players stay in and get to better shape when they're in a good minutes range and just gives them an additional boost.

That's as simple as I can explain it and I think gets the point across in a basic way.


The problem is the difficulty to knowing which are the good minutes for a player.

For example I think a player with 9 GS should play more than 65 minutes a week. So if he plays 75/80 minutes a week , should I get a doctor massage or a Psychologist to keep up the game shape?

I ask because it is not an obvious different between two specialists.