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30484.1
Date: 5/12/2008 11:59:54 PM
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So most of the teams in my league use R&G offense and I'm trying to figure out if I should use a 1-3-1 zone or full court press.
The teams using R&G mostly train gaurds which are better than mine since I train inside. stamina & handling are not an issue.
1-3-1 was very effective against motion for me last season and is my safe option. I'm basicly wondering if Full Court Press is a good defense against R&G or if it is the worst defense against R&G.

Thanks for the help
kai

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30484.2 in reply to 30484.1
Date: 5/13/2008 3:19:33 AM
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Full court press is an good defence vs all art of offense, or a bad way way to defence all offensive strategies ;)

With a fcp you don't fight against the shoots of the opponent, you try to get their ball before they shoot - so if the opponent got bad handling and passing and you got high outside defence on all players(in my experience the big guys good force a lot of TO) it could be a solution.

With an 1-3-1 you got a strong perimeter defence, and make it difficult for your opponent to hit the shots, but the price is you are rebounding weak - thats why i like the 3-2 Zone most which has a good outside defence(weaker then 1-3-1 but better then man to man) and solid rebounding.

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30484.3 in reply to 30484.1
Date: 5/13/2008 6:33:17 PM
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Yeah, FCP is a great defense if your team has strong outside defense. If you want to sacrifice rebounding for stopping outside shots go 1-3-1, if you want better perimeter defense with no loss of rebounding go 3-2, if you want to force a lot of turnovers go FCP. All should be viable against a Run and Gun, just depends on your players and preference.

Last edited by SM at 5/13/2008 6:33:47 PM

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30484.4 in reply to 30484.3
Date: 5/13/2008 6:40:23 PM
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if you want better perimeter defense with no loss of rebounding go 3-2.


There is a rebounding loss with 3-2

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30484.5 in reply to 30484.4
Date: 5/13/2008 6:44:40 PM
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I am wondering this: Do you lose more stamina drop (even sublevels) if you play FCP or your players just get tired during the game so you get more subs?

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30484.6 in reply to 30484.5
Date: 5/13/2008 6:54:51 PM
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A player's stamina skill wont drop due to a tactic.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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Date: 5/14/2008 1:49:10 AM
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if you want better perimeter defense with no loss of rebounding go 3-2.


There is a rebounding loss with 3-2



Really? Would be nice if the rulebook told us that if it's true.

Current rules state that you suffer a rebounding drop on 1-3-1 zone and FCP but only a drop in Inside Defense (not rebounding) for a 3-2 zone.

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30484.8 in reply to 30484.7
Date: 5/14/2008 2:42:50 AM
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If 3-2 also would have a rebounding drop i would choose 1-3-1 anyday when i would play against a perimeter minded offence...

Last edited by Maupster at 5/14/2008 2:43:14 AM

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30484.9 in reply to 30484.4
Date: 5/14/2008 8:26:51 AM
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Oh, well a smaller rebounding loss than with the 1-3-1 then.

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Date: 5/14/2008 9:46:51 AM
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If 3-2 also would have a rebounding drop i would choose 1-3-1 anyday when i would play against a perimeter minded offence...


1-3-1 has a dramatic rebounding drop, 3-2 not as much.

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Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
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Date: 5/14/2008 9:54:38 AM
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If 3-2 also would have a rebounding drop i would choose 1-3-1 anyday when i would play against a perimeter minded offence...


1-3-1 has a dramatic rebounding drop, 3-2 not as much.

so actually 1-3-1 sucks.
You force them to miss their attempt, but then they are able to rebound the ball more easely. Endresult, they keep the bal, and even though they can't score, you can't either...

Since it is a tactics choice I'm probably making a mistake in this theory though, anyone could explain me how this defence is supposed to work??

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