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From: testudo
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Date: 9/27/2021 7:30:01 AM
Isca Centurions
EBBL
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Dartmoor Pumas
Hi,

I'm just completing my first season, and am struggling to understand how to make money training players.

I started out signing three p-allstar players with around $3k salary. I started training them in passing (before I understood to do 1v1 for elastic first). After switching to 1v1F I added some more players. However, from looking at the transfer list I think my trainees are still worth close to $0.

Do I need to buy players with better starting skills and/or potential to make it work? I'm guessing the players were too low in skill to start with. If so, what would be a good starting level of skills? (roughly speaking)

I'd be interested in seeing examples of profitable training if anyone has some - e.g what starting skills they had, final skills and age when sold, profit made etc.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Here are a couple of my trainees for reference:

Player One (bought near the start of the season)
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: perennial allstar

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: proficient
Driving: strong Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious TSP: 62 (47 + 15)


Player Two (bought a few weeks ago)
Age: 18
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: perennial allstar

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: proficient
Driving: strong Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: inept Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious TSP: 65 (41 + 24)

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Date: 9/27/2021 8:22:48 AM
NakamichiDragons
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Do not worry about the transferlist estimate, follow your training concept for 2-3 seasons.


founded in S3 IV.5 (34234) - returned in S28 IV.7 (34515)
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Date: 9/27/2021 2:55:47 PM
Isca Centurions
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I'm comparing manually against players on the transfer list - not only at their current age and skills, but also their future ages and predicted skills. It's possible this is a weird time of year for prices due to playoffs, so I'll keep checking in the new season.

But if I buy a player for $5k and they are still worth $5k after a season of training, then obviously that's a failure. And even if they do gain some value in future seasons, if the total value of the trainees doesn't increase by more than the total cost of coaching, then training is generating a negative profit and also a failure.

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Date: 9/27/2021 3:22:41 PM
NakamichiDragons
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BB is a long-term management game.

Continue training of your trainees for the next 3-4 seasons (1 Real Life Year!) and possibly you will sell each for about 1.000k (depending on market).

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 9/27/2021 3:24:06 PM

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From: Rapses

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Date: 9/27/2021 3:39:28 PM
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I'd say training a minimum 8 potential helps in perceived value when selling younger players, and I wouldn't do it with less than a potential of 9.

7 potential is the absolute minimum in my opinion for training for profit, and never for the quick cash grab, it's a long haul kind of deal. (unless you have an amazing 18yro Allstar with perfect skill arrangement from the onset)

You can expect to sell them at 20-21 age for a profit (considering the cost of max level trainer and amenities here too) if you developed him correctly. (and if you have such a 7 pot. 20yro it will probably be in the U21 or at least on-call).

Playoffs is not a period to sell 18-20-year-olds, as people are looking for well-developed players to win matches.

It's certainly possible to do it, but I wouldn't rely on it for a quick 1 season cash grab. I believe you could do it is by grabbing a very high pot. 9+ and training him in a single important skill all season, for example, inside shot. Selling him later as a work-in-progress for someone to take over the next season with a dutiful promotion in the U21 boards of the relevant country.


Hope it helped, this info might be a bit outdated, so if anyone feels so, please correct me.






From: Ruaidri

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Date: 9/27/2021 5:33:18 PM
Nightearls
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Best way to make money on young players, is to train them as fast as possible with 1-1 on forward en OD on pg.
get a special young trainer for season 18 en 19. That way with 2 lvl 4 trainers you should get around 35 pops with 1-1 training on forwards.

Than fire the young trainer season 20. train OD for 2 seasons.
Than start 22 you have a player above 100 TSP and those sell pretty well. Salary should be not too high and it are decent players that fit Look Inside for most teams.

starting with at least 50 TSP!

I know teams that do this training and make good profits that way.

If you really want to earn money, it is better to focus on stadium build, and perform well in your league with cost friendly players. That way you can make more than 100k a week when stadium is well build and in my opinion that almost always makes more money than you can earn with training players.

Last edited by Ruaidri at 9/27/2021 5:34:04 PM

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From: testudo

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Date: 9/28/2021 3:01:28 PM
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@LA-flaterik123: Thanks for the estimate, if that is what they are likely to be worth then I would be very happy with that. I'm happy to train players long-term, just trying to plan ahead to avoid wasting time doing the wrong thing.

@Rapses: Thanks for the information, that was the type of response I was looking for.

@Ruaidri: Thanks, that's excellent detail and gives me something to think about for trainees next season. I've been upgrading my arena regularly, and my league is mostly bots, so I'm doing well in that regard.

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Date: 9/29/2021 8:34:03 AM
CCSC Bulls
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Let me add this. Those players who have insane SB, high ID and RB, moderate IS, high PA, balanced outside skills sell incredibly high these days. You may take a look at players like this on the transfer market.

Last edited by A Good Guy at 9/29/2021 8:34:16 AM