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24 teams in the European Championship final

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322429.2 in reply to 322429.1
Date: 12/18/2023 5:03:11 PM
B.C. Ambidexter
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I agree 24 teams is better to qualify.

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322429.3 in reply to 322429.1
Date: 12/19/2023 1:43:18 AM
Cobra Kai
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This is a really nice suggestion, it will give smaller nations and their coaches more motivation to compete and build their national teams

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Date: 12/19/2023 2:45:26 AM
BC Elkaaria
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I would support that also.
Would make groups somewhat breathable in Europe. Right now you are pretty much qualified for consolation tournament if you didn't get favourable schedule and are not top 10 team in BB.

Last edited by SiimV at 12/19/2023 2:47:04 AM

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322429.5 in reply to 322429.1
Date: 12/19/2023 3:54:09 AM
BC Hostivař
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Basic idea looks fine, but the system is also very important. There are 14 weeks in every season, what is your idea? Now the system is:
Week 1 - scrimmage
Weeks 2 to 8 - group stage
Weeks 9 to 13 - second group stage
Week 14 - semifinal (friday) and final (monday)
How would you change it to be able to compete 24 teams in second phase?

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322429.7 in reply to 322429.1
Date: 12/19/2023 4:37:25 AM
Vilkiukai
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I do not see the reason to. It is very simple, goal of EC is to win medals. And for some extent to qualify for WC now,
Weaker teams without ent. In second round wouldnt manage to achieve any of this anyways.

I suggest maybe some ranked games as they do jn WC.

But for PO at consolidation i suggest to do it esports style. Like CS, upper lower brackets, so team with 1 loss in PO can still win it all. Because nowadays it is just toomuch random, especially with gdp.

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322429.8 in reply to 322429.1
Date: 12/19/2023 4:45:03 AM
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It's not that good idea, in my opinion.

Current number of qualified teams is determined partially because of easier organization of second phase of tournament, I guess. If you just want to increase number of qualified teams, you couldn't do it with existing tournament organization that easy.

1) If you would like to keep all-play-all system you would need to increase number of matches and that means you would need to play 2 games in one week at some point.

2) I suppose you could increase number of groups in second phase from 2 to 4, but then only the first team from those groups would go in the semifinals. Also, if you increase number of those groups, you would have 2 second-phase groups with 2 teams that won in their first-phase groups. So you would need to decrease number of groups in first phase from 6 to 4. That doesn't look nice to me, 4 groups 12 teams, first 6 advancing to second phase.

3) You could lose all-play-all system, I guess, but in that case, every season would have teams who complains that their schedule isn't fair, that it is harder than someone else's.

I mean, yeah... Maybe we could get some new feature to break this monotony, but with your suggestion, maximum we would get, is a little bit of shuffle of group sizes and nothing more. I don't think that admins are willing to change core of their tournament organization.

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322429.9 in reply to 322429.5
Date: 12/19/2023 5:08:09 AM
SUMY DEVILS
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Basic idea looks fine, but the system is also very important. There are 14 weeks in every season, what is your idea? Now the system is:
Week 1 - scrimmage
Weeks 2 to 8 - group stage
Weeks 9 to 13 - second group stage
Week 14 - semifinal (friday) and final (monday)
How would you change it to be able to compete 24 teams in second phase?


Week 1 - scrimmage
Weeks 2 to 7- group stage 12 groups × 4 teams (3 games at home and 3 away)
Weeks 8 to 10 - second group stage 6 groups ×4 teams (3 games) 16 best teams advances from group to 1/8 play-off.
Weeks 11 to 14 - 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, final.

I see a lot of advantages, top teams in small groups will not be able to accumulate enthusiasm (or they will have to take risks to accumulate enthusiasm) and will be wary of every opponent.

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Date: 12/19/2023 5:17:34 AM
BC Hostivař
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16 best teams advances from 6 groups .... please no, I don't like these system 4 best of 3rd place.

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322429.11 in reply to 322429.10
Date: 12/19/2023 5:29:21 AM
SUMY DEVILS
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16 best teams advances from 6 groups .... please no, I don't like these system 4 best of 3rd place.

I don't like system where top teams accumulate enthusiasm in long group distance, it's not interesting. Maybe you have better suggestions about it?