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Season 64 : brace yourself for autobid

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From: Buero

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323216.2 in reply to 323216.1
Date: 3/8/2024 10:44:12 AM
Los de la Escalera
III.14
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341341
I think that the autobid is not bugged at all. I repeat, it's not bugged at all.

Last edited by Buero at 3/8/2024 10:51:22 AM

From: lvess
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323216.3 in reply to 323216.1
Date: 3/8/2024 11:01:10 AM
Delaware 87ers
II.3
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308308
Is or will there be some way of telling whether the team you are potentially bidding against is a using autobid? That kind of information needs tobe clearly indicated for fairness to bidders who are not using autobid.

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323216.5 in reply to 323216.4
Date: 3/8/2024 11:07:18 AM
Delaware 87ers
II.3
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308308
That's not clear enough of a notification as most people won't notice that kind of detail. The big should clearly have a tag after it saying [autobid] or something like that so it is100% crystal clear.

I dislike bidding for against bots in the first place. Doubly so against bots that are not clearly shown.

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323216.7 in reply to 323216.6
Date: 3/8/2024 2:43:48 PM
Venomous Vicious Vipers
Pro A
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Second Team:
Veni Vidi Vicious
Can you please explain us how the decision to implement autobid has been made ?

As far as I recall, it was a 57% pros to 42% cons vote with :
- a description that was clearly in favor of the change, which has most likely influenced some of the votes.
- at least one important condition that isn't respected : "Available for maximum of ONE Player and ONE staff at the same time"
- no possibility to change our vote back then. I recall a manager saying he voted in favor of the change but who, after reading some arguments, finally changed his mind. So basically the whole discussion following the survey has never been taken into account
Here's the reminder : (318174.1)

I won't even mention how this solution seems already bugged while being implemented at the worst time of the season.

The news talk about "the much requested AutoBid feature", but when I discuss it with experienced and implicated managers, it looks like most of us agree we don't like this idea or the way it's been implemented.

So please, I think we all need some explanations.

Last edited by slamdunk9 at 3/8/2024 2:54:38 PM

From: Azariah

To: aber
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323216.10 in reply to 323216.9
Date: 3/8/2024 3:34:47 PM
Mos Eisley Imperials
III.16
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137137
I think autobid will make rise up the prices, expecially for those players expiring during the less busy hours. It will be more difficult to catch a player at his starting price.


Given the fairly unrestricted nature of being able to autobid on multiple players and your autobids not forcibly reserving the full max amount and restricting what you can put on other players, I expect that if autobid gets widely adopted, you're correct and autobid will probably make BB auctions behave more like a sealed bid second price auction: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickrey_auction#:~:text=A%20...)

And yes, if widely adopted this should be expected to "normalize" player prices between listing times & days, and probably raise the overall prices a little since now bidders can bid their full valuation on the player without having the "winner's curse" of paying a bunch for a player that nobody else really valued anywhere near that high, instead only paying 2% more than the next highest valuation.

But it does also serve to make BB more accessible to people who can't otherwise spend lots of time on the game at a specific time to deal with the end of an auction. And obviously the majority of that extra money being spent on players now is going to go to the selling teams (aside from FA and taxes, yes, but those sinks can be adjusted by the developers as needed if they're siphoning too much money out of the economy), so it's not money that's lost and gone, it's just circulating in the economy more and helping drive demand for other players from those sellers that are now getting more.

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323216.11 in reply to 323216.10
Date: 3/8/2024 3:48:00 PM
Union Klaffer
Bundesliga
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Second Team:
Klaffer Bulls
Why if I set an autobid value, the bid is higher then the starting price (no bid yet)? It seems that it is a bug?