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From: mink0ff
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Date: 3/10/2024 7:27:04 AM
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It's ridiculous atm. Way too much of an advantage.

WC are played at neutral ground, why not do the same for continentals?

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Date: 3/10/2024 9:32:15 AM
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While I agree it's too big of an advantage, teams participating in the Consolation Tournament should still be able to play for something meaningful - what could be an alternative to this?

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Date: 3/10/2024 10:26:37 AM
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Yep. Fair point, mate.

That was actually the only thing 'against' that I could think of.

A nice solution would be to cut the HCA in half or even a third but I don't think that could be implemented easily. Another possibility is to keep it 'as is' but only for the first part of the continental competition and play the final part at neutral court.

I don't have a flawless solution. I only know I don't like it as it is atm...

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Date: 3/10/2024 10:40:36 AM
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Ok, I was focusing on Europe indeed. Trouble is that it is always a strong county winning the HCA in Europe. Many strong nations here, so looking back 6 seasons only is definitely not enough. Another solution would be to make that 10-12-14 seasons back.

Didn't wanna suggest that, as it would benefit us greatly, among others...

On the other hand - Netherlands and Turkey did not get to the finals in the previous ECs, so might be that Lietuva were just way too strong this time around.

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Date: 3/11/2024 3:03:22 AM
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At first, I thought that it might be fairer to impose HCA restrictions on teams qualifying for the World Championship and the second chance qualifiers.
This could allow more European teams to be restricted.
But I'm not sure whether there will be technical difficulties.

Later, I remembered that unlike other continents, the 1st round in Europe is very important.
Therefore, regardless of whether other continents are restricting the top 4 places or more, I suggest limiting the top 2 places in the first-round group in the past 6 seasons.
I believe this should be more fair and acceptable to more people.

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Date: 3/11/2024 6:36:07 AM
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Theoretically, the results of the Consolation Tournament will affect the groupings for the continental championship, because the game manual says,
Past performance will be used to seed teams based upon the World Rankings.
All ranking points that national teams receive, they keep for 28 weeks (i.e., two seasons).
Since the 1st round in Europe is crucial, the groupings are naturally important as well.
If the results of the Consolation Tournament can be clearly reflected in the World Rankings, then the Consolation Tournament should be attractive to top teams.
Perhaps the lack of matches for the 3rd and 4th place teams in the 1st round group is a problem.
Maybe we need to study whether the calculation method of the World Rankings can be improved.

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Date: 3/11/2024 12:14:06 PM
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How about this idea? The team from each confederation that advances the furthest will have the advantage of a favorable schedule in the first round of the next continental competition.
Is it attractive?

This is the snapshots of the U21 teams. https://imgur.com/a/IIW71NZ
IMO, Cyprus U21 has a "perfect" schedule. #1,#2,#3,#5 teams are separated in the schedule. /country/77/jnt/schedule.aspx
But it seems that the "perfect" schedule is rare.
If only the top three teams are required to be separated in the schedule, I guess that would be more common.

I'm not sure whether there would be technical difficulties and how to implement it, but it feels like it could be possible.

Last edited by little Guest at 3/11/2024 12:36:18 PM