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Currently in BB there are 103 "active" countries including Utopia and 4 "Continental leagues". Of these; 41 countries do not have a single active team and another 30, including the four continents, do not reach 112 teams, so they do not have the first three categories complete with real managers. Only 17 leagues have more than 240 teams.

In my opinion this is a waste of resources, bordering on commercial suicide.


That is why I propose two things:

- That there is only 1 league of category I, 2 of category II, 4 of category III, 8 of category IV and 16 of category V.

- That all countries that do not exceed 240 permanently active teams do not have their own league and are included in the corresponding continent. With that, all individual countries with their own leagues would have at least three complete categories and half of the teams in category IV.


With this you would achieve:

Countries that do not reach that minimum would not have their own league, although they would retain their national teams. They would all be included in the "Countries of..." leagues and even if all Africans do not reach the limit they could join another continent that has fewer users than the others.

In this way, all users would play with human rivals. Promotions and relegations would be more agile (2 go up and 4 go down each season in each league), the difficulty of the game would be more progressive for new users and, above all, the load on the servers would be much smaller and the company's hardware resources would be optimized by having to manage only twenty different leagues instead of the current 103.

If the game continues to grow and a country surpasses the minimum number of teams, it could split from its continental league and have its own league, so the game would continue to be easily scalable.

Dates:

#1 Rep. Dominicana Rep. Dominicana 0
#2 Ghana Ghana Buscar 0
#3 Lubnan Lubnan Buscar 0
#4 Puerto Rico Puerto Rico Buscar 0
#5 Bolivia Bolivia Buscar 0
#6 Nippon Nippon Buscar 0
#7 Moldova Moldova Buscar 0
#8 Ecuador Ecuador Buscar 0
#9 Việt Nam Việt Nam Buscar 0
#10 Shqipëria Shqipëria Buscar 0
#11 Bahamas Bahamas Buscar 0
#12 New Zealand New Zealand Buscar 0
#13 Prathet Thai Prathet Thai Buscar 0
#14 Luxembourg Luxembourg Buscar 0
#15 Ísland Ísland Buscar 0
#16 Al Maghrib Al Maghrib Buscar 0
#17 Scotland Scotland Buscar 0
#18 Macau Macau Buscar 0
#19 Misr Misr Buscar 0
#20 U.A.E. U.A.E. Buscar 0
#21 Costa Rica Costa Rica Buscar 0
#22 Tounes Tounes Buscar 0
#23 Nigeria Nigeria Buscar 0
#24 Malta Malta Buscar 0
#25 Al Jazair Al Jazair Buscar 0
#26 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia Buscar 0
#27 Jamaica Jamaica Buscar 0
#28 Kazakhstan Kazakhstan Buscar 0
#29 Pakistan Pakistan Buscar 0
#30 Barbados Barbados Buscar 0
#31 Guatemala Guatemala Buscar 0
#32 Hanguk Hanguk Buscar 0
#33 Paraguay Paraguay Buscar 0
#34 Azərbaycan Azərbaycan Buscar 0
#35 India India Buscar 0
#36 Andorra Andorra Buscar 0
#37 Senegal Senegal Buscar 0
#38 Cymru Cymru Buscar 0
#39 South Africa South Africa Buscar 0
#40 Panama Panama Buscar 0
#41 Hayastan Hayastan Buscar 0

Nobody lives here.

#42 Crna Gora Crna Gora Buscar 15
#43 Singapore Singapore Buscar 20
#44 Malaysia Malaysia Buscar 20
#45 Belarus Belarus Buscar 22
#46 Cyprus Cyprus Buscar 22
#47 Ireland Ireland Buscar 26
#48 Norge Norge Buscar 27
#49 Colombia Colombia Buscar 32
#50 Danmark Danmark Buscar 34
#51 Makedonija Makedonija Buscar 34
#52 Iran Iran Buscar 38
#53 Österreich Österreich Buscar 40
#54 Sakartvelo Sakartvelo Buscar 45
#55 Nations of Africa Nations of Africa Buscar 46
#56 Perú Perú Buscar 46
#57 Nations of America Nations of America Buscar 49
#58 México México Buscar 53
#59 Venezuela Venezuela Buscar 55
#60 Indonesia Indonesia Buscar 57
#61 Sverige Sverige Buscar 66
#62 Nations of Europe Nations of Europe Buscar 83
#63 Slovensko Slovensko Buscar 86
#64 Bulgaria Bulgaria Buscar 88
#65 Chile Chile Buscar 89
#66 Ukraina Ukraina Buscar 96
#67 România România Buscar 96
#68 Uruguay Uruguay Buscar 102
#69 Nederland Nederland Buscar 104
#70 Schweiz Schweiz Buscar 108
#71 Nations of Asia Nations of Asia Buscar 112

Very few neighbors

#72 Bosna i Hercegovina Bosna i Hercegovina Buscar 121
#73 Česká Rep. Česká Rep. Buscar 138
#74 Hrvatska Hrvatska Buscar 141
#75 Taiwan Taiwan Buscar 149
#76 England England Buscar 153
#77 Belgium Belgium Buscar 158
#78 Canada Canada Buscar 164
#79 Latvija Latvija Buscar 171
#80 Slovenija Slovenija Buscar 176
#81 Hong Kong Hong Kong Buscar 176
#82 Rossiya Rossiya Buscar 179
#83 Suomi Suomi Buscar 182
#84 Australia Australia Buscar 183
#85 Israel Israel Buscar 214
#86 Brasil Brasil Buscar 215

They do not have their private league assured

#87 Magyarország Magyarország Buscar 241
#88 Portugal Portugal Buscar 249
#89 Srbija Srbija Buscar 265
#90 Argentina Argentina Buscar 279
#91 Eesti Eesti Buscar 286
#92 Philippines Philippines Buscar 309
#93 Türkiye Türkiye Buscar 358
#94 Deutschland Deutschland Buscar 382
#95 China China Buscar 596
#96 Hellas Hellas Buscar 632
#97 Lietuva Lietuva Buscar 636
#98 France France Buscar 769
#99 Polska Polska Buscar 780
#100 USA USA Buscar 959
#101 Italia Italia Buscar 1 195
#102 España España Buscar 1 232
#103 Utopia Utopia Buscar 1 647

Only these would have their own league according to my proposal.

Last edited by Preperito at 7/2/2024 10:09:41 PM

Maybe I misunderstood something, because I don't know English well . But these first 41 countries from buzzer-manager? The number of users is not displayed there, in fact there are living teams. I am one of them)

I have taken the data from Buzzermanager, which is what I have available; It is possible that if these are wrong, nothing I have proposed will make sense.

I suppose that the administrators will have reliable data on the true participation of active teams in each league to consider whether the proposal is convenient or not.

In any case, I am interested in your opinion on the subject.
You are part of the "European Nations" league where there are 83 active teams.

Do you prefer to play against 84 human opponents like now?
Against more than 240 humans from more European countries?
Or against... how many active teams are there in Hayastan? Do you know any more?

I think that the more human rivals we have, the more fun the game will be, but I may be wrong.

Perfect, half of the first part of my proposal solved.

There are still between 30 and 45 countries with too few teams to have an independent national league.

On the other hand, what do you think about reducing the width of the 1-4-16-64-256 leagues compared to my proposal 1-2-4-8-16-32-64?

To support 1008 teams it would take up to VI division, with VII 2032 would enter and 4080 with VIII tripling the countries with the most teams currently.

Breaking up data:

#42 Crna Gora Europa 15 Teams , 3 divisions, 21 leagues. (More leagues than active teams!)
#43 Singapore Asia 20 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#44 Malaysia Asia 20 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#45 Belarus Europa 22 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#46 Cyprus Europa 22 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#47 Ireland Europa 26 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#48 Norge Europa 27 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#49 Colombia America 32 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#50 Danmark Europa 34 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#51 Makedonija Europa 34 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#52 Iran Iran Europa 38 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#53 Österreich Europa 40 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues.
#54 Sakartvelo Europa 45 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#55 Nations of Africa (AFRICA) 46 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#56 Perú Perú America 46 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#57 Nations of America (AMERICA) 49 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#58 México America 53 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#59 Venezuela America 55 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#60 Indonesia Asia+Oceania* 57 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#61 Sverige Europa 66 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#62 Nations of Europa (EUROPA) 83 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#63 Slovensko Europa 86 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#64 Bulgaria Europa 88 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#65 Chile America 89 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#66 Ukraina Europa 96 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#67 România Europa 96 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#68 Uruguay America 102 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#69 Nederland Europa 104 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#70 Schweiz Europa 108 teams, 3 divisions, 21 leagues
#71 Nations of Asia (ASIA) 112 teams, 4 divisions, 85 leagues.

This adds up to 694 leagues for a total of 1771 teams, that is, an average of 2.46 teams in each league of 16.

The rest of the countries have 4 divisions, 85 leagues for 121 to 382 teams (1.4 to 4.5 teams per league)
or 5 divisions. with 341 leagues for 596 to 1647 teams (1.7 to 4.8 teams per league)

After the change they would remain;

Asia___ = _209 teams => 5 divisions => 31 leagues => place for 496 teams.
Africa__ = __46 teams => It would enter together with Asia and Oceania

America = _426 teams => 6 divisions => 63 leagues => place for 1008 teams.

Europa_ = 1030 teams => 7 divisions => 127 leagues => place for 2032 teams.


In total 3 Confederations with 221 leagues, for 3,536 teams where the current 1,711 would give an average occupancy of 7.74 teams per league of 16, still leaving room to grow and double the number of users.

Reducing the number of leagues to simulate and manage from 694 to just 221 would surely save a few dollars on server costs.

And I don't count the number of leagues that would become the leagues of "Big" countries with their own national leagues.

I see that this topic is of no interest to anyone.

The owners, for marketing reasons, do not want to see the number of countries reduced.
Those from countries underrepresented due to nationalism do not want to lose their league.
Those from highly represented countries don't care what happens in those other countries/leagues.

For my part, the topic is closed.