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From: Ozzy
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40106.1
Date: 7/25/2008 4:15:31 PM
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I don't know does anyone talk about this before me (sorry if does), but I really hate this things when I watch my games live.

1.) Foul means new 24 second for attack... on BB that is not right!!! When someone fouled my player I have just few seconds to finish my attack... that is disaster especially when I lead in last quarter!!!

2.) Time-outs...this things going to make me mad every time when I lead 10,20...or 30 points and my opponent take time-out every time when he get possession in last minute of the game. That is not logical, that is not real, that is not fair-play!!!

3) In 95% on BB player shoot in last sec of the possession (or last 2). That is not real!
Even if I play Run And Gun my players will wait last seconds... I think if you change these things BB will be more realistic!


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40106.2 in reply to 40106.1
Date: 7/25/2008 5:01:20 PM
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Can you provide an example for #1? I don't see that to be happening, and also, if a foul occurs with less than :14 on the shot clock, the shot clock reverts to :14, not :24

As for #2. it may not be logical with a 20-30 point lead (10 points is a different story) , but there's nothing unfair about it.

#3 is not true.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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40106.3 in reply to 40106.2
Date: 7/25/2008 6:08:58 PM
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1.) I will try to find example. Now I dont have time to re-watching all games.
(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)

2.) that is annoying if opponent take 2 full timeouts in last 10 seconds and there is impossible to win a game!

3.) Ok that is not maybe 95%, but more than 80% is certain!!! That is not real again.
I think than something like this would be real:

24-20 sec ----> 3%
19-15 sec ----> 15%
14-10 sec ----> 27%
9-5 sec -------> 30%
4-1 sec -------> 25%

But now situation is like this:

24-20 sec ----> 0%
19-15 sec ----> 0%
14-10 sec ----> 2%
9-5 sec -------> 18%
4-1 sec -------> 80%

This is just my experience with this game! I never see shoot in first 10 seconds of ball possession!!! (I don't count situation with offensive rebound and shoot, and also last minute situations)

From: /joao

To: Ozzy
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40106.4 in reply to 40106.3
Date: 7/25/2008 7:39:50 PM
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If that were true, in a 48 minute match we would have something like 120 posessions, what would make about 60 for each team.

My games prove that wrong, and I even use slow pace offense.


From: Ozzy

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40106.5 in reply to 40106.4
Date: 7/25/2008 8:12:24 PM
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No that way of thinking isn't good! :)
There is a lot of fouls, stolen balls, 3 sec violations, Off. Rebounds... all this things make average possession shorter.

Just watch any game and you will see that almost every shoot goes at last few seconds (if that possession is not intercepted with some spec. event^).

Last edited by Ozzy at 7/25/2008 8:16:03 PM

From: dhoff

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40106.6 in reply to 40106.3
Date: 7/26/2008 9:27:07 AM
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1.) I will try to find example. Now I dont have time to re-watching all games.
(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)

Do you want 14 seconds or 24 seconds after a foul?

In this game, we get 24, although the display in the matchviewer is screwed up and makes it look like only 14 are available.

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40106.7 in reply to 40106.3
Date: 7/27/2008 12:26:06 AM
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(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)


BB is played under NBA rules.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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40106.8 in reply to 40106.7
Date: 7/27/2008 8:24:09 AM
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(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)


BB is played under NBA rules.


Except for technical fouls, and a whole bunch of things having to do with team fouls. And maybe some other things I'm forgetting.

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40106.9 in reply to 40106.8
Date: 7/27/2008 5:35:26 PM
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(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)


BB is played under NBA rules.


Except for technical fouls, and a whole bunch of things having to do with team fouls. And maybe some other things I'm forgetting.

Defensive 3 seconds? :)

From: Pieriku

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40106.10 in reply to 40106.5
Date: 7/27/2008 7:59:01 PM
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Well, I don't know with what kind of tactic you play but me, when I play in Run & Gun, my players shoot 80% of the time within the first 15 seconds of the possession, most of the time between 10 and 15 seconds.

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40106.11 in reply to 40106.7
Date: 7/27/2008 9:31:27 PM
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(But those rule with reverts to 14 is just in NBA. FIBA rule is to reverts to 24)


BB is played under NBA rules.

Then I'm confused. My understanding of NBA rules is that you get 14 seconds after a non-shooting foul. In BB, we get 24.