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41162.1
Date: 8/1/2008 6:34:29 PM
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I just started on BB and have a brand new team. My league just started the playoffs so it's the offseason for me.

I am wondering if it is wise to spend money on players right away, of if I should wait. I will be training PF/C when the new season starts, so should I be trying to buy quality PG/SG/SF players now?

I have played Hattrick for a while now, and that is the strategy on that game...get trainees for whatever you are training, and buy quality players at the other positions. How similar is Buzzerbeater, and how much should I be spending right now?

Also, should I be hiring quality staff members yet? Right now there is an 8-doctor available but he wants 18k in salary a week. Do I get him? I have a 6-trainer and a 4-PR manager.

Last edited by Scot Dutch at 8/1/2008 6:36:22 PM

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41162.2 in reply to 41162.1
Date: 8/1/2008 8:06:36 PM
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Pretty similar to HT.
1. Dont hire the doctor. Keep it lvl1 for now.
2. Try to hire the best trainer in the market - lvl6 for now, but as soon as a lvl10 show up, dont think twice.
3. Look at the draft order. See if you can find something interesting to enhance your team.
4. If you miss quality at a position, wait for the selling out after the draft. The market gets pretty busy and cheap then.
5. For now, choose your best player who's under 20 and has at least superstar potencial, and train him. If PG/SG at 1x1. If C/PF at ID.

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41162.3 in reply to 41162.1
Date: 8/1/2008 8:12:50 PM
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It is somewhat similar to HT in that it may make sense to train one or two positions while buying for others. But there is much greater value in multi-skilled players, and also fluidity of position. It is an advantage if your guards can rebound, and point guards should be able to shoot as well as run the offense. Centers can and do shoot 3s.

The best position for a player is a suggestion, and is actually calculated, and can change based on training. Training is based on where a player actually plays in a game (and a player can play more than one position in a game), and performance is based on a player's skills and the position you set him, not his best position.

So it might make sense to use some of your training on other players. If you train PF/C you can easily train 4 players (once you start playing 3 games/week in the regular season). But it is hard to train 6 players. So it may make sense to use some of the extra training on other players, rather than PF/C specialists.

The draft is coming up. Every team will be getting 3 new players - and your top draft pick may be as good as the players you were given, only younger. My first 1st round pick was immediately a starter for my team, and has also been on the All Star Game all 3 seasons. Teams will either be selling their draft picks, or selling players that are being replaced by draft picks. Also the recent economic announcements may have a small downward effect on the market. New teams are given an extra $50,000 their first 4 weeks, so it might make you think you are better off than you really are. When I was in D.IV I was pretty much in a break even situation. Up through this season, TV games paid a huge amount, so I would lose money every week, and then get a big influx of TV money. This will be changed so that the TV money is paid out steadily through the year, but there won't be any more money in total.

So I probably wouldn't go for the 8-doctor. You don't want Max Payne either, so keep checking for a doctor at somewhere around 4 to 6 maybe.

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41162.4 in reply to 41162.3
Date: 8/1/2008 8:28:45 PM
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What do you mean by "extra training"? It is my understanding you can only train 1 area per week. So far I have only trained stamina and FT so I haven't delved into the specialist training just yet, I am waiting for the new season to start.

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41162.5 in reply to 41162.4
Date: 8/1/2008 9:14:21 PM
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Training is based on the amount of playing time at a position during the week. But a player who plays more than 48 minutes in a week doesn't get any training benefit past 48 minutes. And a player with less than 48 minutes doesn't get a proportional share of training. That is a player who plays 36 minutes doesn't get 36/48 (3/4) of the training.

So ideally to maximize your training - you would want to have all your trainees play 48 minutes per week. Anything over 48 is wasted. Anything less than 48 is less efficient. This is somewhat similar to the idea in HT of using the maximum number of training positions (eg if you train defense, use 5-3-2 or 5-4-1 in both matches).

But it is hard to have 3 players each play 48 minutes at a position, say C. You have two league games, and you may want your best center to play perhaps 30 minutes per game (60 total), assuming you want to win. The backup might play 36 minutes in the two games.

So then you have your scrimmage. You'll probably want your backup to get the 12 minutes to bring him up to 48 (which are the most effective), and it will also help maintain his GS.

That leaves you with the final 36 minutes (at best). The question is it better to have a dedicated center trainee, who doesn't get 100% training. Or is better to use the training for other players. If you are training rebounding, you could use a forward or even a guard as a C in the scrimmage.

I was using "extra training" to mean any training minutes beyond those needed for your top 2 players/trainees to get their 48.

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41162.6 in reply to 41162.5
Date: 8/2/2008 11:48:34 AM
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OK I follow you. Very good to know, I didn't realize anything beyond 48 was wasted.

Right now I am only training FT but when the new season starts I will definitely use this example.

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41162.7 in reply to 41162.6
Date: 8/2/2008 12:31:31 PM
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Here's a question then:

The training system takes in consideration the whole week and the minutes played at the trained position during the days. But if I change my training during the week, what happens to the minutes trained so far?

e.g: I train my C at ID. He plays in the 2nd day of the week a game in which he does the 48 minutes. If I change to IS to the other two games, will the game discard my ID train and consider that I played my 3 games of the week at IS?


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Date: 8/2/2008 4:09:54 PM
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Here's a question then:

The training system takes in consideration the whole week and the minutes played at the trained position during the days. But if I change my training during the week, what happens to the minutes trained so far?


just like in hattrick the training you set right before the trainingsupdate will be the one that is going to happen. You can change the whole week to whatsoever, if you put IS as training before the update happens, then Is it will be and nothing else.

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Date: 8/2/2008 10:11:32 PM
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BB is gullible. It thinks you trained whatever your setting is at the time of the training update on Friday. All that happens during the games is to record the number of minutes played at each position. The game engine does not check what you are training.

Clearly, it makes sense for you to decide your training at the start of the week, and to use lineups that will maximize your training benefit. But things can go wrong. You can be training C, but one center can get injured after 6 minutes. He will still get training for those 6 minutes even if he is injured at the time of the training update, but 6 minutes might only get 5% of what 48 minutes would give. So later in the week you might decide to switch to some other training which will be more effective.

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41162.10 in reply to 41162.9
Date: 8/5/2008 2:18:43 AM
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Thanks for the great tips everyone.
Good think I play HT, being that tthe games are so similar.

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41162.11 in reply to 41162.10
Date: 8/7/2008 2:13:17 PM
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Don't wanna start a new topic and I think this just might fit in this thread:

Is there any limit on how high you can train stamina? At least there weren't any players over prominent stamina on TL.

Last edited by hoo-cee at 8/7/2008 2:13:27 PM