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48978.1
Date: 9/6/2008 8:07:09 PM
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So what's going on? Everyone complained about an economy crash because of the changes made this season. However, I still see players being sold for 5-6 million. The prices may have gone down a bit, but not much.

Or am I reading the market incorrectly?

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48978.2 in reply to 48978.1
Date: 9/6/2008 8:22:04 PM
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I still see players being sold for 5-6 million.

This, in itself, is not necessarily a problem. The question is what type of players are sell for $5 million.

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48978.3 in reply to 48978.1
Date: 9/6/2008 8:23:17 PM
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Incorrect, IMO.

Elite talent (say, players selling for 3M and up now) are going for 20-30% less than they were at the end of last season. That's my very rough top-of-my-head calculation. Someone who follows the elite market more closely (Superfly, jbmcrock?) can correct me.

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48978.4 in reply to 48978.3
Date: 9/6/2008 9:08:31 PM
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Seems about right to me - look at Belloni (a $8.2 million player last year going for around $5 million this year). While some of the fall in value may be due to age (21 now) and the lack of training during his captivity, he probably would have gone for around the same $8 if he had been offered as a 21 year-old with his current skills.

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48978.5 in reply to 48978.4
Date: 9/6/2008 9:40:28 PM
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On the other side of things, many players of marginal skill are still being offered at inflated prices. Players with salries from 4k to 10k are being hocked at 1.5 to 3 million, starting. I don't know how many of them are selling, but a lot are being offered.

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48978.6 in reply to 48978.3
Date: 9/7/2008 1:55:12 AM
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Yeah - I would say 20-30% minimum...

The problem I see is that there is not enough teams competing at the top end of the transfer market.... and ironically for what you get for 1-1.5mil nowadays you'd be better off saving til you had 3mil as I cant see how this improves teams in anything other than the short term.

There still seems to be either some elaborate cheating going on (i dont bother reporting anymore) or certain managers are still prepared to splash the cash for players seriously lacking in defensive skills... some days i feel confident my guys are going to sell as there are bids out for a few hundred $$ less yet my players stay unbid on.

On the low end it really still is down to which time of day you wish to go shopping... I picked up a PF with an 8k wage.. decent stats all over for $430k with a transfer compare of 550-1.2mil...

I think the transfer compare is too volatile... i was trying to sell a guy a few weeks back that had his transfer compare change twice in 3 days....there was no way that there was lots of guys like him for sale and so cant understand why it was forever changing...


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48978.8 in reply to 48978.7
Date: 9/7/2008 8:45:24 AM
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Just over a week ago 2 C's (Paolo Paranaense and Eddy Mathiot) were sold for around 5 million... Eddy went for 7 million last season.

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48978.9 in reply to 48978.1
Date: 9/7/2008 9:54:25 AM
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there are some teams which still have the possibility to earn money from their home matches, because they have a huge number of ticket holders and their national division is not so competitive (for exemple in canada, japan..)..so you can see some of these teams that have the monopoly of the market..Other teams in big nations (for exemple in italy and spain) are completely excluded from the market..

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48978.10 in reply to 48978.9
Date: 9/7/2008 10:08:06 AM
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Wow, you think that division I in Canada is not competitive? I must really suck as a manager, then. Well, I guess I already knew that.

I understand that there is a 20-30% deflation for high level players and maybe some for lower level players. But I'm surprised that the best players in BB still sell for 5-6 million. These guys have salaries at around $60,000. My team could barely afford one of those guys - two of them would send me into an economic tailspin.

To me it makes sense that the balanced guys at $20,000-30,000 salary keep their value. I could afford 5-6 of them and still field a competitive team.

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48978.11 in reply to 48978.9
Date: 9/7/2008 10:12:29 AM
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there are some teams which still have the possibility to earn money from their home matches, because they have a huge number of ticket holders and their national division is not so competitive (for exemple in canada, japan..)..so you can see some of these teams that have the monopoly of the market..Other teams in big nations (for exemple in italy and spain) are completely excluded from the market..


Attendance from league games, cup games and bb3 games plus tv contract and merchandizing minus player salaries and staff nets my team about $25,000 a week (sales of back-up trainees netted profits to make two major purchases on the market for me). I am not sure how oeuftete is doing, but I suspect it is about the same. Canada is actually quite competitive - not enough to enter in the strongest league debates, but 4 or 5 of our teams could probably reach at least .500 in Serie A or the NBBA. So don't blame Canada ...