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From: Skiiz
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Date: 10/18/2008 9:45:16 PM
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In my last game, which I lost, I used a 2-3 zone, mainly to stop the opponent's Center, their best player. But this tactic didn't work at all.... he still dominated with 10-15 shooting for 21 pts 15 reb.... Why did it not help?? Does it have something to do with my players?

In general, why do you think I lost the game... and how could I change my tactics to avoid this in the future?

Thanks a lot!

From: chihorn

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54279.2 in reply to 54279.1
Date: 10/19/2008 10:29:31 AM
New York Chunks
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Wow. The box score looks like you played well. Very even, I'd even say had the statistical edge overall (except of course with the total points...). The difference may have been the fouls and you got beat at the free throw line. Looking at the other guy's center, I'd say he's been training hard, as obviated by his rapid improvement through the season, and you did all you could against him. If this game were played at your arena, I'd say you would have won. Tough loss.

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From: Skiiz

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54279.3 in reply to 54279.2
Date: 10/19/2008 12:26:14 PM
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Hmm... ok. That kinda sucks, but oh well... I'm still in good position to make the playoffs. And yeah, free throws are a big weakness on my team.

From: Daheavy

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54279.4 in reply to 54279.1
Date: 10/21/2008 11:34:43 PM
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yea dats a tough loss your big men couldnt stop him your PF and your C both fouled out your opponents C was very good

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54279.5 in reply to 54279.4
Date: 10/24/2008 6:35:55 AM
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indeed.

if the opposing center is THAT much stronger, then you can't count on tactics to plainly stop him, fact is you probably couldn't stop him no matter what...


you must look at it like this (pure fictional):

say your teams ratings are like: 4-4-4-4
and your opponent's are: 3-4-3-5

then choosing a tactic that hightens your last number at the cost of your first would make your team like this: 3-4-4-5. In this case you see you can neutralise his higher number, preventing him from being superior at any place, thus giving you a good chance.
An other tactic would be to lower your last digit in order to raise your first, which would give: 5-4-4-3
You now have a decent edge on the first, but give your opponent a decent edge on the last. By hightening your edge in the first, you hope/estimate that your opponent will suffer enough, or can not fully benefit from the last, so you can win.

In these cases you can make a diffrence with a well thought tactic.

if however your numbers are 4-4-4-4
and your opponent has 3-4-4-9
He can raide his first and let has back drop to 4-4-4-8 and still have advantage.
If you see you need to raise your back and go 3-4-4-5, you did slow him down a little, but you see he still has the big edge over you. If you put everything in it to focus on that last digit and go 3-3-3-7, you still come short, and give way in the others area's as well...


You need to see tactics similar to this fictive example: you can twist your figures a bit, but you can't work miracles.
So you always need to think what is best, planning on your own strengths, or trying to hold his strengths off, or a mix of both,... When the diffence is to big though, you can only hope you get lucky.
Hope this helps.

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54279.7 in reply to 54279.5
Date: 10/24/2008 6:26:16 PM
EDH Wolves
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That was what I have always though, thank you for the confirmation. An excellent post.

Cws