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56050.1
Date: 11/2/2008 9:27:57 AM
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The end of a season isn't all fun and glory, however. Four teams from each division will be demoted to a lower level of divisions. The 8th seed in each conference is automatically demoted, and the 6th-ranked team from each conference competes with the 7th-ranked team from the other conference in a best-of-three relegation series. The fifth-ranked teams are safe, but they dont get a shot at the championship, either.

For the single-match eliminations, the team with the higher standing is given the home-court advantage. When there is a best-of-three series, the team with the higher standing has the home-court for the first match and for the tie-breaker (if a third game is necessary), and the lower-ranked team has the home-court for the second match.


For me the rules sound like that the team with the better Standing should get home court advantage even in the relegation. Maybe it would be better, to make clear that in case of relegation the sixth placed team got the home court advantage.

In germany we got some confused users about that.

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56050.2 in reply to 56050.1
Date: 11/2/2008 9:31:01 AM
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The end of a season isn't all fun and glory, however. Four teams from each division will be demoted to a lower level of divisions. The 8th seed in each conference is automatically demoted, and the 6th-ranked team from each conference competes with the 7th-ranked team from the other conference in a best-of-three relegation series. The fifth-ranked teams are safe, but they dont get a shot at the championship, either.

For the single-match eliminations, the team with the higher standing is given the home-court advantage. When there is a best-of-three series, the team with the higher standing has the home-court for the first match and for the tie-breaker (if a third game is necessary), and the lower-ranked team has the home-court for the second match.


For me the rules sound like that the team with the better Standing should get home court advantage even in the relegation. Maybe it would be better, to make clear that in case of relegation the sixth placed team got the home court advantage.

In germany we got some confused users about that.

The sixth-placed team is the team with the better standing, so the passage is correct.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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56050.3 in reply to 56050.2
Date: 11/2/2008 9:33:26 AM
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in this case it was wrong for the PO final ;)

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56050.4 in reply to 56050.3
Date: 11/2/2008 9:49:24 AM
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in this case it was wrong for the PO final ;)

It was? The higher-ranked team has 2 home games in the PO final (first game and TB), unless I am missing something.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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56050.5 in reply to 56050.4
Date: 11/2/2008 10:08:40 AM
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ain't it the team with the better standing(i mean standing in case of wins).

So if
Big 8:
Team A 21Wins 1 Loss
Team B 20 Wins 2 Loss
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Great 8:
Team C 18 Wins 4 Losses
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If the final was team B vs C, team B got home court advantage in game 1 and 3 not team c like you are saying.

Edit: or did team c really got Home court??? I don't find an example till now, but i am pretty sure that b got it.

edit: second place team got Home court:

/BBWeb/standings.aspx?Season=3&LeagueID=213(edit3 changed link)



Last edited by CrazyEye at 11/2/2008 10:16:11 AM

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56050.6 in reply to 56050.5
Date: 11/2/2008 10:24:19 AM
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Yes, and Team B has the better standing than Team C, too. Standing refers to the position in the rankings overall, not to how you did in your particular conference.

In your particular example, both teams had the same overall record, but HC went to the second-placed team due to their better point differential.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 11/2/2008 10:26:44 AM

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56050.7 in reply to 56050.6
Date: 11/2/2008 10:30:10 AM
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opk why standing means in relegation something toally different then in playOff ???

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56050.8 in reply to 56050.7
Date: 11/2/2008 10:37:54 AM
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opk why standing means in relegation something toally different then in playOff ???

It doesn't.

If Team A is ahead of Team B in the conference, then Team A is also ahead of Team B in the rankings.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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56050.9 in reply to 56050.8
Date: 11/2/2008 10:44:18 AM
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Ok answer me following question

Standings mean:

A. the rate of win or losses
B. the place the team is finished
C. i need time to think about it,

i think i explain it one a easy way, that here must be a failure because the same rules is used in two different ways in the same case(and i like to see two different cases in the rules, so that it was clear because they ain't a interpretion think it was an easy rule based decision)


Last edited by CrazyEye at 11/2/2008 10:45:30 AM

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56050.10 in reply to 56050.9
Date: 11/2/2008 10:47:04 AM
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Standings refer to the overall rankings in terms of wins and losses of the entire league, including both the Big 8 and the Great 8.

It should be fairly easy to see how the 6th team in the Great 8 will always be ahead of the 7th team in the Great 8 in the standings, whereas the 1st team in the Big 8 can sometimes be behind the second or even the third team in the Great 8.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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56050.11 in reply to 56050.8
Date: 11/2/2008 10:47:21 AM
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it does, CrazyEye is right. The rules could be more clear here.

If Team A is ahead of Team B in the conference, then Team A is also ahead of Team B in the rankings.


True, but relegation is not conference only, you play vs the other conference.

In the PO final standing refers to total standings (draft list). The guy with the lowest draft pick (= highest standing) will get HCA.
In relegation the nr 6 always has the HCA vs the nr 7 of the other conference, even when the nr 6 got a record of 5-15 and the nr 7 10-10.