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61362.1
Date: 11/27/2008 5:57:02 AM
Nitra Corgons
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I would like to know what was the idea of B3 estabilishing? Is that help big teams training more than 4-5 players, or was it fun-compare best teams from every country to compete who is better?

I think if we stop counting minutes from these games, so the best squad from each team could be set, it will be more fun, or realistic.

that is just my opinion..

1 BBB, 20 Leagues, 10 Tournaments, 3 Europe Titles (SVK), 2 World Bronzes (SVK), 2 Europe Bronzes (SVK,FRA), 42 Seasons NT coaching
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61362.2 in reply to 61362.1
Date: 11/27/2008 6:00:13 AM
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I think if we stop counting minutes from these games, so the best squad from each team could be set, it will be more fun, or realistic.


i like to see that too, not for the advantage in Training which is in my eyes more an disadvante in game shape and leads to weaker lineup during this WC of clubs.

I like to see it like the NT games, the player should get some Experience but the game was in a a kind of arcade mode(the real motivation from the clubs should be affected and use).

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61362.3 in reply to 61362.1
Date: 11/27/2008 8:24:55 AM
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You can set the best squad anyway, however you would lose that 1 training. It is about management and thinking about your priorities.

In that way I see that as a good tactical complication, why it should be different?

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61362.4 in reply to 61362.3
Date: 11/27/2008 11:07:07 AM
Nitra Corgons
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yes it is challenge too big challenge i think. i pay 215k salaries, 70k staff, plus 10k scauting. income is about 300k, merchendise etc.60k.

so find me room for at least one more well paid guy to compete..and if you do, guess who in my country would profit from my positions, all the managers trailing just a bit..

in real world best teams have very wide option picking players, well paid, but they have no problems affording them, becose of incomes..

i am not gonna put my best squad in B3. There are still more disadvantages.
For me it is more intersting to watch best teams playing against each other than B squads. I am not definetelly only one like this in here..

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61362.5 in reply to 61362.4
Date: 11/27/2008 11:24:55 AM
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If you want to move up on B3, you have to use your best. On the other way, same players will be tired to play more league games, that's also reality factor.

If you doesn't feel for B3 wide enough, you can give up, others have an same dilema, that's why it is called a manager game.

If I would be there, I would follow the B3 and league from the beginning and meanwhile there will be any strong opponent in the national cup, I would to forget about league worries or dismiss a cup?

You can have a wide squad for all these games, or you have to choose which competition you will disband. This is so great dilema, which makes your B3 opponents even weaker if they cannot handle their's dilema, which is your advantage, yipee

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61362.6 in reply to 61362.4
Date: 11/27/2008 11:25:32 AM
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in real world best teams have very wide option picking players, well paid, but they have no problems affording them, becose of incomes..

You'd be surprised how many sport teams are carrying huge debts. In the long run this causes them trouble.

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61362.7 in reply to 61362.5
Date: 11/27/2008 11:50:09 AM
Nitra Corgons
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ok i earned about 1M winning cup..how much could i earn i B3? do you think it is good idea to give up league games? you would loose sooo much money in income, so the only way is to give up cup..but giving up cup is not worth it..

Last edited by LA-zajino at 11/27/2008 11:50:25 AM

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61362.8 in reply to 61362.7
Date: 11/27/2008 11:57:16 AM
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the difference between the cup and bb3 is that the cup is easier to predict for most teams since almost every team in bb3 can advance very far in the cup, while in bb3, the competition is too high to expect the receipt of a certain amount of prize money. the bb3 draw didn't do you any favours either ...

to answer your question on bb3 proceeds, you can probably clear about $1.2 million, after subtracting additional salaries and attendance loss to league losses. but there is a bit of additional training from the fourth game if you can figure out how to take advantage of it.

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61362.9 in reply to 61362.7
Date: 11/27/2008 12:17:37 PM
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ok i earned about 1M winning cup...

count again.

for winning the last 10 rounds you receive about 675 dollars total for all rounds.
From there on it was 25k each round, which means you must have played another 13 rounds... no way any cup has 23 rounds.... I think the average cupwinners ended around 725k total cup money. Small countries less, bigger countries a little more, but I don't think anyone reached 750k.

In B3, if you win it, you have 1M from the final game alone. Ofcourse, winning it is prety impossible for 99,9% of the BB teams. But winning a cup isn't that easy and mostly some sacrifice is needed and if you lost the finals you got 250k less, which is more then 1/3rd of your total!

No, the cup is not economically attractive. Nor is B3. If you want to compare, do it on other bases then economics because there is nothing big to be gained, in neither.

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61362.10 in reply to 61362.9
Date: 11/27/2008 3:27:37 PM
Nitra Corgons
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No, the cup is not economically attractive. Nor is B3. If you want to compare, do it on other bases then economics because there is nothing big to be gained, in neither.


thatswhy i pick easier and more predictable way in cup

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61362.11 in reply to 61362.10
Date: 11/27/2008 7:13:21 PM
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Im for and against the current format of the BB3. After a couple of mails with BB Charles I offered the following alternative (similar to the Champions League from week 4) I think this would add enjoyment and reduce the HCA which often decides the close matches and doesnt allow for a high enough % of upsets.

So, what about if you trimmed the top 256 in the world down to 32 in weeks 1-3. (Either on neutral court or 2 games H&A)
Then ;
Weeks 4-6 - 8 groups of 4 - 3 neutral matches with top 2 progressing (and being seeded) Better still squeeze 2 matches per week in here and play opponents home and away.
Week 7 Sweet 16 (1st leg)
Week 8 Sweet 16 (2nd leg)
Week 9 Quarter Final (1st leg)
Week 10 Quarter Final (2nd leg)
Week 11 Semi Final (1st leg)
Week 12 Semi Final (2nd leg)
Week 13 - FINAL
Sweet 16 only would be decided by combined points total.
With the rewards for progression money wise minimal and the only real benefit being training it would be nice to play for Zero money, no extra training minutes and play with fixed enthusiasm.
Or this could this be a supporter feature where managers could opt to play and register for in week 1 of each season IF they werent already in a Private League. When you lose obviously you could enter a Private League.