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Rebound after Air Ball (Free Throw) ?

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63520.1
Date: 12/9/2008 2:39:57 PM
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How can it be, that players can grab rebounds after Air Balls out of Free Throws ?

I even saw Offensive Rebounds from the Man who made the Air Ball !

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63520.2 in reply to 63520.1
Date: 12/9/2008 4:18:38 PM
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What do you mean by "air ball"?

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63520.3 in reply to 63520.2
Date: 12/9/2008 4:37:37 PM
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What do you mean by "air ball"?


Hmmm... possibly an LA for Beeblebrox's language went a little overboard with some flavor text on missed free throws?

Last edited by Mod-oeuftete at 12/9/2008 4:38:27 PM

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63520.4 in reply to 63520.3
Date: 12/9/2008 4:41:09 PM
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Possible.

If that's the case, it's entirely possible for players to rebound their missed shots, and this would not be a bug of any sort.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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63520.5 in reply to 63520.4
Date: 12/10/2008 3:45:35 AM
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In Germany it's called "Air Ball" when a shot does not hit the rim, the board or net at all. Don't know if you have another word for that in english.

But if a short Free Throw that does not hit anything, then there can not be a rebound after that. The Game would be continued with a throw-in from the defending team.

Maybe only an LA was too "creative" in translating the normal text.

Example: (8465276) with 2:03 left in 4. Quarter

Last edited by Beeblebrox at 12/10/2008 4:07:14 AM

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63520.7 in reply to 63520.6
Date: 12/10/2008 7:09:34 AM
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Not on a free throw. An air ball on a free throw is a violation of some sort, and the play is dead.

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63520.8 in reply to 63520.5
Date: 12/10/2008 7:11:42 AM
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We know what an "air ball" means. I went and looked at that game, and at 2:03 (/BBWeb/reportmatch.aspx?matchid=8465276&realTim...) the player "throws up a brick" for the second FT and got his own rebound. My language is set as "English (US)". I have never ever seen an "air ball" message myself in BB.

Go to your profile: (/BBWeb/profile.aspx). What exactly is your Default Language set as?

Last edited by Mod-oeuftete at 12/10/2008 7:15:53 AM

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Date: 12/10/2008 9:58:01 AM
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Not on a free throw. An air ball on a free throw is a violation of some sort, and the play is dead.


Answering myself, because I think I'm wrong. According to any NBA rules I looked at (this looks like it covers the violations: (http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html?nav=ArticleList)), I don't think the FT air ball itself is a violation. But any time I've seen this in an NBA game, there's an immediate whistle.

So, I think, in practice, there is always a whistle (and never a rebound) on an NBA FT air ball, because:

- the shooter is quickly in violation because they cross the plane of the free throw line before the free throw touches anything; and/or
- a FT air ball usually hits out of bounds?

This is all tangential to the original post, which I'm still convinced is the result of an LA issue.

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63520.10 in reply to 63520.9
Date: 12/10/2008 10:06:08 AM
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No, you were right. From the page you linked, rule a says
a. After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free throw shooter, his attempt shall be within 10 seconds in such a way that the ball enters the basket or touches the ring before it is touched by a player. The shooter shall be within that part of the free throw circle behind the free throw line.
Then the penalties:
PENALTY:
(1) In (a-f) above, if the violation is by the offense, no point can be scored. The ball is awarded out-of-bounds to the opposing team at the free throw line extended.

So, if the FT shooter doesn't put the ball in the basket or touch the rim, then it's a violation and the other team gets the ball out-of-bounds.

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63520.11 in reply to 63520.10
Date: 12/10/2008 10:14:24 AM
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Ah, excellent.

I hate failing a reading comprehension test.