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For the first time I want present to you a 20 y.o. standings :-) I hope it will be interesting too...

Point Guards

1) Y. Mpoutzoukas -> Cilingir Cerci Tiryaki has ended train him and Atmatzidis pass him over, but he's still a good player, the best point guard... I'll send you a BB-Mail about
2) -
3) -

Shooting Guards

1) Y. Pitsikokos -> djembe I hope that he will receive 1-2 levels of passing and 1-2 levels of outside defense, but he's at the moment the best SG in Cyprus.
2) N. Pararas -> Stikkio Bologna just a little worse than Pitsikokos, but more defense and passing... he sucks on free throws and I hope he will improve at least one level during the end of the season
3) A. Feloukas -> BC teammate he was injured 2 weeks, if not he will be already an important Shooting Guard of u21 national team. He has to improve Jump Shot, Outside Defense and Passing, where he's weak. One more level stamina at the end of the season as advice

Small Forwards

1) M. Ketikidis -> Athens HEAT He could play 4 positions, except Center, but please stop training 1 on 1!!! He needs Jumper, Inside Defense and Rebound! Stop with Driving, please!
2) N. Velouchiotis -> Leones negros (For Sale!) He doesn't value 1.7M, but 900k-1M. He's able to do a little bit of everything, he needs 3 o 4 level of Jumper, than we will see...
3) Y. Kagiasis -> Urubus nado likes 1 on 1 training... I don't agree, but he doesn't want change his way to train and I cannot oblige him! He needs 3-4 levels of Inside Defense, 2 rebounds levels and 2-3 of Jump Range and Inside Shooting. I cannot understand his level of handling for a 203cm tall, it has been only time wasted.

Power Forwards

1) D. Florakis -> Debrecen Raptors He was injured 2 weeks and he lose important time to spend on training. I hope he could reach higher levels of primary skills within the end of the season
2) A. Karamichalis -> kypseliakos best Power Forward shooter. He has to raise 2-3 levels of each primary skill (Rebound, Inside Defense, Inside Shot) and I hope gines13, his manager, wanna do it
3) R. Yiannakopoulos -> Bob Marley many other are better than him like Seitaridis, Kouvarakis, Katsis or Baydar as general level, but he has the right skills at right points. Potential is his biggest limit.

Centers

1) Y. Kaikas -> Eucalyptus After trading to Eucalyptus from Spain we are still waiting for some pop-ups by months... At the moment he's the better Center of Cyprus, next season it could be different...
2) N. Gkotsakis -> N.B.A PHILIPS without any kind of training he has the same general level of Kaikas, but he's 4-5 level under about primary skill, so MOUZ let's go working... sorry... training!!! :-)
3) K. Zampetakis -> Amici di Jack he's lazy on popping-up, but I think that paolinobest could continue his important work on him

We have many Guards and Forwards like Ladas of apoelfc, Seitaridis of OldBoys, Fanaras of Alliansi, Kastrinakis of Los ochotos, Asteropoulos of menssana basket or Kaloumenos of ^Valentino' or why not Karalikos&Katsis of Cyprus Fighter, but for a reason or more than a reason there is something he put them beside players I've written upside.

We are poor of Point Guards and I can't see nothing of good about at 20 y.o. and Centers are not good as it should be...

Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 1/11/2009 9:55:14 AM

Take a look of the first releasing of season 8 about 21 years old Cypriot players:

Point Guards

1) Y. Mpoutzoukas -> Cilingir Cerci (=) He's still the only good 21 y.o. point guard. He has a low potential that stops his growth. I think it could be the last year with the flag
2) N. Androulidakis -> LOST4 (New Entry!) I hope he will be trained, because potential MVP is important and skill of playmaking are pretty good for a "not-trained" player
3) -

Shooting Guards

1) Y. Pitsikokos -> djembe (=) He's still at the first place of this top3. I hope he will increase on JS/JR rapport during this season.
2) N. Pararas -> Stikkio Bologna (=) I haven't seen any upgrading about FT. A better rapport of JS/JR, one level down on OD. For sure a great Shooting Guard of next U21.
3) Y. Lavdas -> Apoelfc (New Entry!) he passes Feloukas thanks to a great level of JS, but the rapport JS/JR is not so good... he need a lot of OD!!!

Small Forwards

1) M. Ketikidis -> Athens HEAT (=) He's a great player, no doubts. I hope that he could be trained as PF/C because he needs ID... Inside Defense give to him an incredible dimension!
2) T. Fanaras -> Fuji Film Marsala (New Entry!) He's the only player that has a good rapport OD/ID, stop!
3) N. Velouchiotis -> Leones negros (for sale) (-1) trained awfully he still a good player. I cannot understand why he's always on Transfer List and never trained... I don't know why... he's 3rd now... tomorrow I don't know!

Power Forwards

1) D. Florakis -> Debrecen Raptors (=) He's an enigma... due to his manager... for sure a good player...
2) -
3) -

Centers

1) Y. Kaikas -> Eucalyptus (=) Marvellous Center, nothing to say over... I hope he will increase this year too...
2) K. Zampetakis -> Amici di Jack (+1) I hope he will steadily increase, because we are very poor in the paint
2) N. Gkotsakis -> N.B.A PHILIPS (-1) I've send to MOUZ a good training plan and I hope that he will respect him, because he could be a good player in a couple of years.

Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 2/25/2009 7:56:14 AM

Karalikos and Katsis i think that both can make the list, or at least 13 and 14 players

They are not complete neither as PF or SF or C... they must be still trained to give them a outside or, if you prefer, an inside dimension.

Katsis has decent range good rebounding skills very good shot, but he is awful on D. He is tall so maybe the best position for him is PF, with outside shooting ability. Karalikos with a train on inside shot, and D he can be nice PF, even if he is only 6'8. I cant think to make him SF couz he has no range to speak of on his jumper.

I know... but without defense he's not balanced... he has no Outside and no Inside... if look other National Ratings you can easily understand why I've never recruited him until now.

Under 21 ALL STAR GAME period updating...

Guards:

1) Y. Pitsikokos (5134912) of djembe ->

2) N. Pararas (6106020) of Team 36538 ->

3) A. Feloukas (6553067) of BC teammate ->

4) Y. Lavdas (6253133) of Apoelfc ->

5) Y. Mpoutzoukas (4652398) of Çilingir Çerçi ->

Small Forwards:

1) M. Ketikidis (4652397) of Athens HEAT ->

2) N. Velouchiotis (6166373) of Leones negros ->

3) N. Kastrinakis (7084291) of Los ochotos ->

4) A. Asteropoulos (7140872) of Animari Kravinbelt

5) Y. Kagiasis (4652384) of Urubus ->

Inside Players:

1) Y. Kaikas (4652370) of Siam Paragon in the Land of Smiles ->

2) D. Florakis (4652376) of Beaters ->

3) K. Zampetakis (4652351) of Amici di Jack ->

4) V. Karalikos (6470627) of Cyprus Fighters ->

5) N. Gkotsakis (7619042) of N.B.A PHILIPS ->


Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 4/13/2009 5:36:44 PM

Yiorgos Mpoutzoukas (4652398)
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P.S. I think you should update your database.

Yes!!! I think it too :-)

Updated! I ask everyone to tell us if a national interesting player is for sale! Thanks