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In this game (557607), I had higher inside scoring and outside scoring than my opponent, yet my offensive flow was lower than his. Does this mean that the sector ratings aren't based solely on your team, but are based on your teams offense and your opponent's defense? I could understand a lower offensive flow since his defenses were better than mine.

Also, his coaching rating was atrocious, while mine was far better. Any idea why his were so bad?

does this mean the zone ratings will be removed (as I suggested in anotehr post) ??

if yes then I'm very happy.

Hmmm, alright.

Could you tell me what offensive flow is supposed to consist of then? I'm assuming it varies by opponent.

Zone? Sector? Quadrant?


What the hell are you guys talking about?

stogey, we are talking about the ratings based on a specific zone of the court, like Inside Scoring, Perimeter Defense, which are similar to the zone rating in HT (Midfield, Left side defense, Central Offense, etc).

And in hattrick they make sense, since the game is partially decided based on that. But on BB is different. The game is decided play-by-play, so the Ratings by zone are not as relevant as people think they are.

That's why I previously suggested to completely remove them. The info that really matters is on the Boxscore. They should add just the positions the players played and maybe the court showing where the shots were taken. That's it, no obscure ratings. BB does not need that.

Edited 8/28/2007 7:05:21 PM by GM-Raonne

I do like zonal ratings as far as scouting goes, but as for determining how a team won, I agree with everyone else.

It is for this reason that charles is very opposed to doing away with the zone ratings... he wants there to be an absolute metric which shows how good a team you put on the court for that game.

However, in terms of understanding what happened in the game I'm coming up with a relativistic measurement which shows you how effective each position was against your opponent at that same position. So as the previous example that is given above, you could see that in most games their SF dominated opponents, but in this previous game your SF was more effective than theirs. I am thinking of showing actually 10 values.. which relate to the offensive efficancy at each position for either team.. so if you want to look at your defensive efficancy you look at your opponents offensive efficancy.

i've implemented version 1.0 and 2.0 of this... but i want to check it some more, run it by some people internally.. then we need to make the database and website work with the new ratings.. so its a little ways off still.. but i am working on it.

Edited 8/29/2007 8:13:10 AM by BB-Forrest

also to answer the original question. Offensive flow is most related to how balanced your scoring attack is and how well a passing team you are.