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From: Plotts
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Date: 06/30/2009 21:37:17
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I would like to know why my starting SF subbed out my PG in the final two minutes of my game. My PG was scheduled as the PG starter/back up/ reserve. My SF was only scheduled for starting at SF.

I am not upset, just confused. My 48 minutes are out the window and the PG had 0 fouls.

thnx in advance.

From: Sparkle

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99601.2 in reply to 99601.1
Date: 06/30/2009 22:34:24
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Strictly follow depth chart? What's your PG's stamina?

From: Fussion
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99601.3 in reply to 99601.1
Date: 07/01/2009 01:10:17
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I've seen this before too. If you have on let the coach decide it will do those kind of substitutions. But if you watch the game you might see that it follows how a real coach might sub during the last part of a half or game. For example, on my game I was down by 10 points with less then two minutes left, my team purposely fouled the opponent to send him to the line. Then the coach subbed in all bigs for rebounding. Once we got the ball back a timeout was called and 3-point shooters were put in. This is very typical of how a real game would go, a coach subs in specific people for a situation that might only be 10 seconds long.

From: Plotts

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99601.4 in reply to 99601.3
Date: 07/01/2009 01:55:13
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I agree. And your example is spot on, the problem is,
A. I was up by 16
B. I had "strictly follow depth chart"
C. My SF is my best player, but not my best ball handler, so if he got hurt, I would have been undoubtedly upset.

Why would the coach sub in the one guy who has no business being on the court with 58 seconds left?

My PG stamina is awful, but again, 1 minute left in the game and up by 16. Why sub? and why sub in the one guy you don't want to be hurt?

GMs? Thoughts?

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99601.5 in reply to 99601.4
Date: 07/01/2009 03:12:22
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The same has happened to me on the game of 11/06. My PG got subbed by someone who was not supposed to play at PG position. Although my PG had 5 fouls, this should have no effect because I selected: let them play.

I was also up by 15-20 points. And I always use strictly follow depth chart. Stamina is awful.

From: KwaiWah

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99601.6 in reply to 99601.1
Date: 07/01/2009 09:36:11
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From my limited experience, this happens because u had a reserve player. As long as u hv a reserve player in any position, that player will be used to replace any position that the player is tired, injured or has foul trouble.

To eliminate this, u will just need to set no reserve for all positions. But beware that when u get into foul trouble or injury it will totally have an impact to your team's performance.

From: Plotts

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99601.7 in reply to 99601.6
Date: 07/01/2009 09:47:18
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ahh, but I only use 9 guys. Here is how I my rotation works.

active players
PG
SG
SG2
SF
SF2
SF3
PF
C
C2

depth chart for that game:

PG / PG / PG
SG / SG2/ SG2
SF / SF2/ SF3
PF/ C2/ SF2
C/ C2/ C2

So with a minute left my bench had

C
PF
SF

Tired or not, If I select "strictly" follow depth chart, then that's what should happen. I didn't select, "follow depth chart"

Maybe BB should take out the word "strictly". It's misleading.

From: KwaiWah

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99601.8 in reply to 99601.7
Date: 07/01/2009 10:04:46
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I totally agree that the words 'strictly follow depth chart' is very misleading and ambiguous.

However, instead of arguing over the language, let's focus on the game engine for now.
Setting 9 player to get 1 player full 48 mins is the right way. But u need to make sure no players were set at reserve. Instead ur depth chart prob should hv been

PG/PG/-
SG/SG2/-
SF/SF2/-
PF/SF3(since it is at PF should be renamed to PF2)/-
C/C2/-

I know this because last season I was trying to train 6 trainees, and after weeks of trial and error I found that this is the only way to ensure all 6 has 48 mins (Which for me will be sending in 8 players with no reserves). But it is definitely risky as I lost some of the games I should hv won when my trainee got into foul trouble.

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99601.9 in reply to 99601.8
Date: 07/02/2009 12:36:34
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Thank you sir. That was a great post and exactly what I was looking for. The reason why I've really stuck with my rotation is because I have next to no drops in STAM and my guys stay around /strong/ and /prof/ game shape and never go over 80 minutes.

I will try your rotation out next game and let you know. Thanks again!