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10407.10 in reply to 10407.5
Date: 12/19/2007 11:07:50 PM
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They aren't really related skills, other than the fact the the ball is hurled at the hoop for both, they are rather dissimilar.


Huh? Other than Rick Barry (would shoot underhanded), a free throw is pretty much a jump shot, isn't it?

Granted, you're not being guarded by another player and there are crazy fans behind the basketball waving giant french fries at Grant Hill, its still fundamentally a jump shot.

Just seems that if inside shot is going to train stuff like rebounding and inside defense, then you'd think there would be some spill over from training jump shot into free throw shooting.

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10407.12 in reply to 10407.11
Date: 12/19/2007 11:44:50 PM
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You don't have to jump, because there isn't a man with his hand in your face that you're trying to get above/around. But the montion and concept is almost exactly the same.

And some players do jump (a little bit) and that's what causes them to cross the foul line and cause a violation.


Steve

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10407.13 in reply to 10407.7
Date: 12/20/2007 3:35:01 PM
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Or, if you're Bill Cartwright, you extend your arms fully, swing the ball all the way to the top of your reach, then "flip" the ball toward the basket.

Or, at least, that's how I remember his freethrow "style."

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10407.14 in reply to 10407.11
Date: 12/20/2007 3:36:12 PM
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yeah you jump, but shooting itself is still the same (so what you do with your hands)

and nice job naming this player he seems cracked but I think it's a rare thing.

So please at least give some kind of improved FT-training (only guards or something like that)

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10407.15 in reply to 10407.14
Date: 12/20/2007 4:46:51 PM
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OK, suddenly I'm starting to agree with this idea. But I disagree that it should be only guards, or any positional requirement.

As you said, it is the same hand motion as a jump shot. So if it is implemented, it should be possible that any player/position are trained in jump shot have their FT ability trained as well, only very, very slightly. Perhaps so slowly that it isn't very notable at all; i.e. 8-10 weeks of jump shot for one level of FT. It wouldn't be much of an advantage in the short run, but as a player became a better shooter overall, he would slowly increase his FT shooting.

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10407.16 in reply to 10407.15
Date: 12/20/2007 5:16:22 PM
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So if it is implemented, it should be possible that any player/position are trained in jump shot have their FT ability trained as well, only very, very slightly. Perhaps so slowly that it isn't very notable at all; i.e. 8-10 weeks of jump shot for one level of FT. It wouldn't be much of an advantage in the short run, but as a player became a better shooter overall, he would slowly increase his FT shooting.


This wouldn't bother me either.

I would oppose if FTs trained at the same rate they would if FT was the trained skill, but this sounds like a good compromise.

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10407.17 in reply to 10407.11
Date: 12/21/2007 6:19:13 AM
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the real concern from a gameplay perspective is that adding FTs a secondary skill to just jump shot would make the game slightly biased towards guards. perhaps its true though that gaurds shoot better FTs.. then again this may because a good gaurd must shoot better FTs to be good because he is going to be handling the ball more and must be fouled more at the end of the game.

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10407.18 in reply to 10407.17
Date: 12/21/2007 6:24:17 AM
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Not only that, but guards (at least until the change to handling/driving) weren't an attractive training option since there are more skills to consider (and still more than inside guys).

Maybe a slight FT bump for JS training would be a bonus to mitigate that.

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10407.20 in reply to 10407.19
Date: 12/21/2007 6:28:23 AM
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well one principle is that things should only be as complicated as they need to be to make the game enjoyable. Although increasing the number of parameters makes the game more flexible it doesn't necessarily make it more enjoyable for the user, especially the new user. It certainly would have been more straight forward to program the other way. Personally I'm kind of on the fence about the issue, there is definitely a debate to be had about it from a game design perspective.

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