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15004.10 in reply to 15004.4
Date: 2/4/2008 9:49:19 AM
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Because of this i bought the player for $100.000 when could have bought for $50.000


That doesn't have a lot of relevance to the bid extension - the bids would get there regardless.


I agree with Damena and disagree with JuicePats. The point Damena was bringing is that by extending the auction for too long there is a chance that new bidders will come along, and therefore increasing even more the time spent and the price.

I can atest to this since it has happened to me more than once.

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15004.11 in reply to 15004.10
Date: 2/4/2008 10:28:28 AM
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i think all the points raised can be incorporated.. i like jimrtex idea as then it would encourage more genuine bidders and not late steals... you also have to remember that not everyone has amazingly fast internet connections... i take it for granted in japan as im sure a lot of people do... but sometimes pages can take a while to load or refresh and if you get booted out or the bb error message appears it can easily take 2mins to get back onto the bid page for the player you were trying for (i cant imagine people use bookmarks as much as they do in HT as the timestamp doesnt appear.)

I would also like to see anonymous bids ie. just the price (unless you are bidding on your own player then this should be visible)

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15004.12 in reply to 15004.10
Date: 2/4/2008 11:51:22 AM
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I agree with Damena and disagree with JuicePats. The point Damena was bringing is that by extending the auction for too long there is a chance that new bidders will come along, and therefore increasing even more the time spent and the price.


If you're taking that argument, then you're essentially saying that you need to essentially punish sellers.

I'd rather see three minutes myself, but arguing that it costs more money to have 5 minutes isn't really germane to the conversation, as most of us have probably benefitted from it as sellers at some point.

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15004.13 in reply to 15004.12
Date: 2/4/2008 12:33:53 PM
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If you're taking that argument, then you're essentially saying that you need to essentially punish sellers.

I'd rather see three minutes myself, but arguing that it costs more money to have 5 minutes isn't really germane to the conversation, as most of us have probably benefitted from it as sellers at some point.


exactly!!

the fact that in the 5 minutes new buyers come along and start bidding simply means that the player didn't reach it's value yet!!

What is trying to be achieved here is that potential buyers will not get enough time to see a buy, and get no chance to bid anymore. This should be avoided. The final bid should only stay when no one else wants to bid any higher.

I still don't get it for LA-Damena, he has enough to spend but is anoyed by the time, then why don't he bid much higher to start with, so no one will overbid? It would take 5 minutes, not 30.

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15004.14 in reply to 15004.13
Date: 2/4/2008 1:14:18 PM
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I understand the seller's perspective but I this perspective is the one to be primarily considered or that the player has not yet reached his value. Players don't have a fixed value, it variates depending on several things, and one of them is the time where the auction ends.

Giving long extensions to the sales and allowing new bidders to come in after the auction was already scheduled to be over is a huge disadvantage to buyers and a not deserved advantage to sellers.

And let's not forget the whole point which is that nobody wants to be over 30-45 minutes to buy a player.

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15004.16 in reply to 15004.13
Date: 2/4/2008 1:16:04 PM
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I still don't get it for LA-Damena, he has enough to spend but is anoyed by the time, then why don't he bid much higher to start with, so no one will overbid? It would take 5 minutes, not 30.


you want us to overbid to cover up for a flaw in the game? I definetely do not agree with that. Now I am personaly even mroe convinced: Time extensions should be smaller, period.

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15004.17 in reply to 15004.15
Date: 2/4/2008 5:00:17 PM
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Noone likes to spend $300.000 in a player when it can cost $100.000

Here's my solution. Don't spend $300k if you can get the same skills for $100k.

:)

Edited by dhoff (2/4/2008 5:17:22 PM CET)

Last edited by dhoff at 2/4/2008 5:17:20 PM

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15004.18 in reply to 15004.17
Date: 2/4/2008 5:12:02 PM
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HT pulls off the TL system with a 3 min extension and I don't think I have ever seen a long pronounced discussion about it being too long or too short, or that buyers and/or sellers are being disadvantaged by it, in 3 years.

I'm on the 3 minute extension band-wagon after seeing it work quite well in HT and another soccer-sim I play. 5 minutes just draws out the process longer than is really necessary, IMO.

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15004.19 in reply to 15004.17
Date: 2/4/2008 5:17:22 PM
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Personally, I don't care whether a player costs 300k or 100k, I'll stop bidding when I'm good and ready. But I'm not going to bid more than I need to in an attempt to make the auction end faster and drive up the price, and it's a HUGE pain to sit there and bid on the same for for 45 minutes only to let him go when his price gets out of reach.

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15004.20 in reply to 15004.19
Date: 2/4/2008 5:30:23 PM
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I agree, there's no sense in wasting time.

I tend to think that, on average, players will go for the same price regardless of whether there are 3- or 5-minute intervals. If that's the case (and I assume that people will disagree) then 3 minutes will save everyone time and hurt no one.

I wouldn't advise that we go lower than 3 minutes, though, as I think it's important to have time to react once you've been outbid.

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