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A real man until he gets to the free throw line :P

Nice looking player, but Shaq like from the stripe!!

It'll be prominent or higher most likely. I have players with respectable passing who don't average close 4 APG. At least he's producing 6 a game. Whereas a player with prominent or higher rebounding would be pulling down over 15 boards a game.

To stajan: Could it be that managers haven't trained passing as much because it didn't seem to pay enough dividend? While rebounding did, for example.

I don't think it would be prominent. Possible, but seems high. Unless he has very little OD in which case it makes sense. The player's rating is pretty low though.

As I said before, when you collect a rebound you automatically add 1 to your total rebounds. This isn't the same for passes. You have to make the pass and the other player has to score.
So maybe his team just needs to score better.

Its the highest scoring team in the league. Well over 100 points a game. And they even shoot a high % which is rare. :)

Surely such a team should have a PG averaging close to 9-10 APG.

Okay well maybe it is because he has low gameshape.
If you look at his team, you will notice he gets over 30 assists a game.
Perhaps he just has 1 or 2 dominant scorers and the rest of them pass the ball to these guys and so the reason the assists aren't high per person is because they are spread out over the team.

Passing is a skill that is not so esay to train, probably simply cause if you train passing you don't train any other primary skill, even in decimal - ok, driving and handling, but they are not as appealing as JS or OD.

Probably, people just look elsewhere. Anyway, I'm going to raise my outer player passing level by 2 in the next season :-)

Its litle bit complicated to understand how passing works on the GE, plus its normal you see that outisde teams normally their average of assist is lower compared to inside teams. Or for example there are inside teams that when his C-PF makes a dunk and is assisted is more like because their C-PF has a great IS than because they received a good pass.

An outside player with a great JS, but speacially with a great driving can create by their own a shot attempt without the need of a good passing and finally scoring it and this happens a lot of times during a match of an outside team.

Also its really complicated to calculate the level of passing of a PG or in general of a team, because for example there can be teams with bad offensive flow but that if they play against a team that has bad defenses they make 20-30 assist.

In general when you play against teams with offensive flow of 4 or so calculate his PG is not more than 7-9 calculating also the SG and in lower participation the SF.

If its over 5, calculate his PG has around 10-11 or so with SG around 8.

And so on...

To have a great offensive flow if you have a PG with passing 9-11-12, a SG 6-8 and SF 6-8 you can be happy with your team. In top teams that can be with PG around 12-15, SG 10-12 and SF depending on manager.


In general managers train passing but its more difficult they wanna sell his PG that had to spend lot of seasons to train him.

Last edited by Marot at 8/29/2010 9:10:58 PM

In my expierence most teams don't have great passing and offensive flow so their team doesn't get many assists.

A few more reasons

-really good teams have high passing on their SG, SF, etc. These players will in essence "steal" assists from the PG.
-A PG with shooting equal to passing will probably shoot as often as he passes, taking away some assists. And if the players around him are really bad, he could even take the lion's share of the shots.
-People have over-developed outside d and under-developed passing. The general BB philosophy (as I have heard it) is to train outside d first, everything else later. Since outside d is what stops assists, is it any wonder that they are (a bit) lower than expected?

By the way, things used to be worse than this. I really like the way the engine works now in terms of passing, I do not think we need an assists tweak again.