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I think what you are saying needs to be brought as a suggestion - improving draft peeks.

It is going to be my third draft, and in my first draft I've picked a great prospect that develops great, and another that is also very good.
So, I cannot say whether your claim is true or not.

What can be said is that the draft maybe needed to be adjusted per league.
Meaning that an higher league get better (more prepared) players.
It as its flows, as it may give an extra advantage to the teams in the higher leagues, but maybe there is a way that it would work.
For example - the better prospects in the lower league's drafts (while more ready and mature players in the higher league's draft) and so on.

I just read your forum. You had 33 points, so assuming you have some knowledge how the draft works. 10 points to measure and get to know the age of draft picks. About half of the draft is 18 year old. Prolly not over 10 18yo-s have 1-2 overall rating. So you will not go for group demo. That means you need 24 points to firstly scout all the 18yo-s. You only had 23. I have reason to believe there are atleast 5 18yo-s with 5 star rating. Did you actually use 40k both weeks to get extra 8 points? Still that would not be enough to interview all those players. We should not even talk about the interviews with 4 star rating players. I agree you might not get that 5/5 player (if you have 1+ active low standing drafters), but there is still a chance to pull out that 4star/5pot player, who is worth a decent amound of money on TL or a 5star/3pot player who is worth getting 48 cup or scrimmage minutes on any training spot.

i didnt need 2 scout all the 18s because

1 the whole league was told in forum by another player that had a ton of points a few facts
2 who u have ranked as 1 or 2 balls is random & i think i had 9 guys of interest so even though it could be argued i was wasting 1 point i thought the extra info was worth it
3 i havent scouted @ all 19yos or 18yos who are 6'8" or taller
4 it was 33 points a bit ago so 3-9 more since then
5 ive never spent more or less than 20k on the draft every week since i started the game in season 10 :)

ill go & do the complete sad draft history 4 my team & post it here later :(

Agreed, let's see if there is more than one suitable draftee in your leagues draft. Obviously we can just look at salary and potential. What really matter are the skills.

the height can also be an issue

how does this guy sound for a draft pick for a team training guards?

Eddie Nixon $4023 18 superstar SG

perfect right?

well he was 6'9" with really bad inside skills (pitiful IS and awful RE & PA)

Now you are talking about draftees suiting a specific team. You still should draft the best player you can get. Sell him, for more than you invested in draft (like I have done every season) and buy a trainee, that suits your training plan. Or get someone older with better skills.

ok r u ready for the official goldfish draft history of shame?

for the record i have spent $20,000 on the draft every week since i started in season 10
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season 10 draft

we started in season 10 round 4 so missed out on 1 week of drafting spending $20,000 x 13 weeks

cost $260,000 running cost $260,000 - sales $400,000 = total profit $140,000 (this is my peak!)

draft picks
#13 choice #1 Xiong Tiande $3294 19 HoF C 6'9"
i train guards and he was 6'9" with awful js & all bad guard skills but also inept id, was 19 with low skills sold for $400,000

#29 choice #10 Gao Fazhan $2745 19 allstar C 6'8"
a second big man when i already had xie & rad and was 100% going with guards with 7 x inept or worse i just sacked him

#45 choice #30 He Qunhao $2424 19 benchwarmer PG 6'1"
benchwarmer = sacked

season 11 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $540,000 - sales $420,000 = total loss $120,000

draft picks
#14 choice #3 Perry Hardman $4560 18 star SG 6'6"
he was very tempting but i just felt with the height of 6'6" and potential of only star he wasnt worth training - i have always trained high potential guys pallstar at least with only one exception ever i sold him for about $20,000

#30 choice #4 Ric De Bartolo $4213 19 star SF 6'11"
too tall too low potential couldnt sell him so sacked

#46 choice #34 Tamra Gupta $1991 19 benchwarmer PF 6'3"
sacked

season 12 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $820,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $182,000

draft picks
#15 choice #2 Eddie Nixon $4023 18 superstar SG 6'9"
already stuck on guards i get an 18yo superstar SG - couldn't be better right, but 6'9" with pitiful IS and awful RE & PA sold for $208,100.

#31 choice #13 Evan Halatau $3026 18 starter PG 6'5"
too low potenrial sold for $10,000 and still playing!

#47 choice #16 Andreas Czybulka-Schwenold $2472 18 starter PG 6'5"
sacked

season 13 draft (the worst ever!)

cost $280,000 running cost $1,100,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $462,000

draft picks
#16 choice #3 Alex Deevey $3118 18 benchwarmer SG 6'2"
it was a crappy draft for guards & everyone i checked was bad sacked

#32 choice #5 Lokmalhakim bin Sulaiman $3185 18 roleplayer PF 6'2"
sacked

#48 choice #33 Jörg Hersch $1726 19 benchwarmer PF 6'10"
sacked

2 benchwarmers & a roleplayer awesome

season 14 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $1,380,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $742,000 but one slightly trainable player with a tpe of $10,000

draft picks
#9 (my best ever pick) choice #4 Darius Black $3245 18 star 6'1" PG
by now i was really annoyed about my drafting & just wanted to be able to train a draft pick like everyone else so when i got darius even though he had bad skills (7 x inept or worse 42 skill points in total (excluding stam & free throws)) and potential i decided screw it im gonna train him

#25 choice #14 Konstantin Pitzing $2737 18 6th man 6'0" PG
sacked

#41 choice #22 Hazem Mugridge $2771 19 starter 6'1" PG
sacked

season 15 draft (second worst ever)

cost $280,000 running cost $1,660,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $1022,000 but one slightly trainable player with a tpe of $10,000

draft picks
#12 choice #4 Sem Crone $3027 18 6th man SF 6'4"
sacked

#28 choice #8 Mohd Syamsuri bin Ibrahim $2455 18 starter PG 6'0"
sacked

#44 choice #15 Enrico Lorenzi $2285 19 6th man SG 6'0"
sacked

a starter & 2 6th men - ive had worse

running out of characters here...

season 16 draft (THE MIRACLE!)

cost $280,000 running cost $1,940,000 - sales $642,000 = total loss $1,298,000 but one slightly trainable player with a tpe of $10,000 and now 3 x 18 year old trainable pallstars (tptal tpe on them is less than $100,000 combined)

draft picks
#13 choice #1 Will Johnson $3726 18 perennial allstar SF 6'2"
i got my first choice, amazing luck! this is by far my best draft pick ever even if he had a tpe of $50,000 after i have spent $2million on the draft he is the pick i have always wanted

#29 choice #4 Fabian Goller $2990 18 perennial allstar SG 6'4"
my second best pick ever so how much was the second best guy i have ever drafted worth

Purchased from Melbourne Goldfish for $ 4 000

#45 choice #13 Ryan Brown $2660 18 perennial allstar SF 6'0"
to a lot of players he would be just rubbish but with my drafting history i decided to keep him because of his height and very low fouling, i did a lot of 2 position training this season (1on1 & JS) and he always been trained in those 2 pos weeks so has had 7 pops this season his tpe was $1-10 but after a season of training...

There have been 8 recent transfers of 18 year old small forwards with strong jump shot and perennial allstar potential. Of these, the ones with skills most similar to Ryan Brown have been selling for around $ 2 000 to $ 70 000.

so that is it after spending $2million and making a $1.3 million loss on the draft the second best player for my team i have ever gotten was worth $1-10,000 - but it did mean that i stopped training black my former best draft pick ever the star potential guy

that is why i think the draft is bad

Last edited by abigfishy at 10/21/2011 7:57:58 PM

Well I can counter that with my draft spending history.

  Spent	  Sales	 Season	
  70000	 900000	     S7	
 140000	 230000	     S8	
 140000	 209300	     S9	
 140000	 500000	    S10	
 140000	  60000	    S11	
 140000	   5000	    S12	
 140000	 993300	    S13	
 140000	 158100	    S14	
 140000	 150000	    S15	
 140000	 162900	    S16	
 320000	    ???	    S17	
1650000	3368600	1718600	<- profit

So looking at this, draft is amazing, is it not? For the record. I have always been a playoff team, so these guys have not been drafted early. Exception being this season. Perhaps I'll train this years trainee:D

Last edited by Kukoc at 10/22/2011 4:47:11 AM

thats awesome but u must have had a ton of luck

ive been in drafts where there was only 1 guy in the whole draft worth > 100k

& i know a well known team (zyler) who tanked a whole season spent 40k a week 2 find the best player in the whole draft was a $4k all star

until this season i spent more than u every single season but u got better draft picks than me every season with much less info

u gonna tell me there isnt a bit of luck involved?

in fact i think there is probably a lot of cause & effect

u r a very successful team because of ur drafts

having an extra $900k in ur first season thanks 2 the draft is an amazing gift

there is an aussie team adams guns, that randomly drafted a guy #32 who turned out to be the best aussie draftee ever - he sold him for more than $4million and made it to the abbl riding the wave of free money

$4 million for pick 32! that isnt skill that is pure arse

that is why i think the draft is bad

I was just trying to prove a point. Based on your team, you could say draft is bad. Based on my team, you could say draft is good. All I was trying to say is, you can't assume something based on one team. Obviously if there are no profitable draftees in draft, you can't break even. I have a few seasons in there that were exactly like those. You can't say it's just luck aswell as I have constantly been drafting better players while not beeing amongst the first to pick. Ofcourse situations are different, Estonian managers are mostly dissapointed in draft. So looking at the leagues average draft spending you can anticipate the chances of getting a profitable player. You must have a decent system for point spending aswell.
Don't hate the game, hate Edju?:D

Last edited by Kukoc at 10/23/2011 11:13:51 AM