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204848.10 in reply to 204848.3
Date: 12/19/2011 12:07:14 AM
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Training balanced players (multi-tremendous) that won't ever win you games of any importance are the only players you can break even with.



yeah, i worried it will get to the point where it is impossible to get to the top leagues without going on suicide runs (aka Venomous Scorpions). That is, being in the top divisions requires player salaries that are not sustainable, leading to teams saving money for a while in DII or DIII, then making a break for DI and BBB. This has already happened in, well, we all know what I'm referring too, as well as BBB.

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204848.11 in reply to 204848.1
Date: 12/19/2011 12:46:57 AM
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To effectively show the "demise of BB", you would need to present an example of what a 115k player sold for 5 seasons ago and compare that to the present rate of $ 1 149 000. All you've shown with this example is that a player's TL value greatly decreases once the player is no longer trainable. Sounds pretty logical to me.

Of course prices have decreased across the board for players, save for NT trainees and SFs. This can be explained by the much greater supply of solid players, combined with the same demand.

I'm confused, didn't you bring this issue up a few months ago with an equally flawed, much cheaper example? (189530.1)


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204848.12 in reply to 204848.11
Date: 12/19/2011 3:05:55 AM
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I'm simply throwing ideas out there... the real crux of the problems in my opinion is the decision not to make equal size leagues (to appease the NT lovers)... from here it was a slippery slope down... there was a refusal to try & rectify the imbalances created by the small nations vs large ones.

I guess I'm just having my seasonal rant in the hope we will eventually get some radical news... it needs to be enough to upset a large % of managers & I'm happy to take the risk of being in either camp... rules that effect certain teams for the better or the worse.

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204848.13 in reply to 204848.9
Date: 12/19/2011 7:14:10 AM
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BB is a money game! If you train your SF, SG and PGs from scratch to make the team, you'll end up like me! Better buy them off the TL! >_<


I hear what you are saying. In our country's top league more and more teams don't even bother to train players because:
-They save money because they don't buy trainers and don't pay huge salaries for them;
-They can shop cheaply for already trained players on TL with money they saved;
-They don't need to lose games because their trainee has too low skills for league level;
-They don't need to lose games while training out of position;
-They don't need to count minutes for trainees and they usually keep very good GS this way.

Last edited by profit007 at 12/19/2011 7:20:25 AM

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204848.14 in reply to 204848.13
Date: 12/19/2011 2:29:36 PM
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I train players because I find it the most fun part of BB
but what you said has planty of merit

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204848.16 in reply to 204848.12
Date: 12/21/2011 2:58:43 AM
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I think one of the major issues with the game is that you should be rewarded for home grown talent and punished for no home talent.

Lets face it. Who cant get 5 Spanish/Italian/Chinese players and rule their division?

But why would people pay big money prices when there isnt a native player even appearing in the game.


If this game made starting young talent in league games a premium, people would train themselves instead of sending their draftees to farm teams then buying them back. I think the top leagues simply pay too much for teams that only win.

You win with home talent, your wallet should be bursting open.

If you win a home game with a starting 5 from your home country in the top league, why wouldnt your merchandise spike upwards of 50k that week?

The training is best part of the game. Watching big salaries slam against each other on mutual Look Inside CTs? Not exciting at all.

Buzzerbeater isnt a game of tact. You dont win with "strategy". You win with cunning, shady buy/sells on the transfer list, tanking to save, and renting expensive players.

Its sad, but its the truth.

tank to save, rent to win, look inside. Thats what the game seems to have become.

I just personally refuse to play the game that way. Im training my guards hoping that sooner or later the game is evened out, and well rounded players can dominate the game as they should over lopsided guards with no IS or Bigs with no JS/Handling.

Just trying to have fun. But its clear the trading list is all about underpriced SFs that take training without rise in salary.

6 mill for underpriced SFs

and 1 mill for well trained players. Unfortunate but the new reality.

Last edited by Izaman at 12/21/2011 3:01:17 AM

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204848.17 in reply to 204848.16
Date: 12/21/2011 4:15:43 AM
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If you win a home game with a starting 5 from your home country in the top league, why wouldnt your merchandise spike upwards of 50k that week?


in the salary regions of the german league i would say an all german lineup, make nearly those 50k extra each week then a comparable foreign one(same NT contribution).

Buzzerbeater isnt a game of tact. You dont win with "strategy". You win with cunning, shady buy/sells on the transfer list, tanking to save, and renting expensive players.

Its sad, but its the truth.


in germany not every first division tanker, made it back to the first league and nobody slam with that strategy till now. In nippon i think promoting is much easier i believe, since there ain't that much team who maxed out there salarys but hopefully you make this step to a big nation in future. And i am not saying that tanking is always bad, but is it no winning guarantee and not the only way.

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204848.20 in reply to 204848.19
Date: 12/23/2011 1:06:14 AM
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who cares about making money? logging in on Fridays and crossing every limb and appendage for a nice pop is more important xD xD

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