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219996.10 in reply to 219996.9
Date: 6/12/2012 9:51:03 AM
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Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Perhaps if the fan survey was adjusted to incorporate broken contracts. I know it happens now but I think with contracts it could be done more severely, with justification. Which fan wants to go and watch their city take on another city, when they don't even know who will be playing that night?

As I mentioned just three posts ago, the fan survey incorporates that measure already. It's called "I am familiar with the star players, and am not afraid that they will be transferred".

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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219996.11 in reply to 219996.10
Date: 6/12/2012 9:55:25 AM
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It's interesting that you make out as though I am affected by confirmation bias, but you deny your own.

A constant rotation of players in and out of the team will affect the fans more than this one part of the fan survey. At the beginning, maybe, they might get over it. After a while, not many will come to the games. I see your point that the fan survey is trying to address this. Now, see my point that it fails or, at most, falls very short.

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219996.12 in reply to 219996.8
Date: 6/12/2012 9:55:44 AM
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you can the games here too, and get an idea about them. If they should be public or not is another thing, but i like how it is today.

The training would be included in the initial price of the contract.


should we also set our lineup and training regimes, one season in advance? Even i had several player who double there salaries withn a season, and i am not talking from 5 to 10k, you can even train from 40k to 120k within a season.

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219996.13 in reply to 219996.12
Date: 6/12/2012 10:01:57 AM
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should we also set our lineup and training regimes, one season in advance? Even i had several player who double there salaries withn a season, and i am not talking from 5 to 10k, you can even train from 40k to 120k within a season.


That's a silly suggestion. If you did that you would lose for sure. Surely the tactics of buzzerbeater would get you beaten if everyone knew what your strategy was.

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219996.14 in reply to 219996.13
Date: 6/12/2012 10:04:10 AM
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Another reason to advocate contracts would be that it would put a more natural state to the BB economy, rather than BBs (or whoever does it) injecting free agents back into the system.

If it was set up with contracts, the player would always be there, ready to play. All they'd need is someone to ask them to play (sign them up).

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219996.15 in reply to 219996.11
Date: 6/12/2012 10:06:47 AM
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It's interesting that you make out as though I am affected by confirmation bias, but you deny your own.

A constant rotation of players in and out of the team will affect the fans more than this one part of the fan survey. At the beginning, maybe, they might get over it. After a while, not many will come to the games. I see your point that the fan survey is trying to address this. Now, see my point that it fails or, at most, falls very short.

I'm not making out anything. You tried to claim the fan survey should include something that's already there. If you want to argue its effect is not severe enough -- that's a different argument altogether.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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219996.16 in reply to 219996.15
Date: 6/12/2012 10:17:49 AM
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Ok, you got me on a semantic. I'm not going to look back to see if I did or didn't say it. The point remains that the fan survey isn't realistic.

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219996.17 in reply to 219996.13
Date: 6/12/2012 10:19:37 AM
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should we also set our lineup and training regimes, one season in advance? Even i had several player who double there salaries withn a season, and i am not talking from 5 to 10k, you can even train from 40k to 120k within a season.


That's a silly suggestion. If you did that you would lose for sure. Surely the tactics of buzzerbeater would get you beaten if everyone knew what your strategy was.


so if you sign a 80k, 21yo Center for three years:

- he might be an 200k center in his klast contract year easily

- he might be consider finished and perfect for the team and remain an 80k center

- can massively trained out of position and end of at an 110k PF

How you put that into one contract? Without knowing the exact training regime.

In reality where you get your ideas, the player will progress a bit but not that massive like here. Here it is possible to play like Kyle Visser this season, and next season perform like Dwight Howard. Yes they improve, but that are really small compared to here.

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219996.18 in reply to 219996.17
Date: 6/12/2012 10:23:25 AM
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Well you set the training regime, so you set what price you are willing to play for that player. Others will do the same.

If you want to keep his salary low, you train him in secondary skills. That's your choice. It's good to have choice, no?

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219996.19 in reply to 219996.16
Date: 6/12/2012 10:24:54 AM
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Ok, you got me on a semantic. I'm not going to look back to see if I did or didn't say it. The point remains that the fan survey isn't realistic.

My point is not to "get" you (or anyone else, for that matter). It's hard to discuss anything when the other side is changing the argument all the time.

As for the fan survey being realistic -- BB-Charles is on the record somewhere saying that being able to do trading on the market for some profit. So far, I've heard nothing from the management suggesting that this functionality is not performing as expected.

It is also expected that you should be able to use the transfer market to make your team better by purchasing stronger players. It seems to me -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- that you expect teams to play for virtually no crowd unless they keep the same roster for multiple seasons, and this is just not goign to happen.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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219996.20 in reply to 219996.18
Date: 6/12/2012 10:31:23 AM
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so nnot giving long term contract to create monster get punished, tryining to keep stars or own draft player when they reached are necessary level get impossible. Making it more attractive to train old players, since you can give them imporvement with no cost on a long term contract. To use your word "silly" in my eyes, but they are crazy.

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