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220075.10 in reply to 220075.9
Date: 6/14/2012 3:07:17 PM
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I completely understand that logic, but the only way a player doesn't get to play 48 minutes is if he is either injured or fouls out.
Not really true -- your player can be and often does get subbed if he gets too tired.

Both of these scenarios can be accounted for by the actual game simulation. I can see why having blow-out scores can negatively effect the standings (hence to 25-0 score), but I think transferring the actually minutes played might be more appropriate for not penalizing the team that actually showed up to play.
No-one is being penalized. You can get any single minute in the game assigned to a player, if you order your lineup correctly. You're somehow implying that getting 48 minutes at one position is some sort of a reasonable expectation for a game -- it is not.

Anyways... I can put this in the suggestions forum. I was initially just empathizing with the original poster.
You could, and it has been put in that forums before -- I'm just relaying what the response was from the BB team.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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220075.11 in reply to 220075.10
Date: 6/15/2012 3:45:18 AM
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. You're somehow implying that getting 48 minutes at one position is some sort of a reasonable expectation for a game -- it is not.

My trainees get 48 minutes a game at one position all the time, so from my point of view it is somewhat reasonable. Obviously it's not guaranteed due to injuries and foul outs, but it works probably 75% of the time. I still maintain that not having this as a possibility at all in a walk over is a slight penalty.

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220075.13 in reply to 220075.11
Date: 6/15/2012 10:38:01 AM
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. You're somehow implying that getting 48 minutes at one position is some sort of a reasonable expectation for a game -- it is not.

My trainees get 48 minutes a game at one position all the time, so from my point of view it is somewhat reasonable. Obviously it's not guaranteed due to injuries and foul outs, but it works probably 75% of the time. I still maintain that not having this as a possibility at all in a walk over is a slight penalty.

That makes sense. I meant to say that while 48 minutes is a likely outcome, there is no expectation of certainty for this -- I guess it didn't come out very clear.

Yes, I can agree with you that having a 100% chance of not getting 48 minutes in a walkover can be considered a penalty of sorts. My understanding is that that the intent of the developers is to have trainees play in multiple games in order to receive training minutes, and everything else is a "do it at your own risk" type of affair -- that is to say blowouts are functioning as expected.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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220075.14 in reply to 220075.12
Date: 6/15/2012 5:51:32 PM
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I think the problem has an easy solution.
Once the simulation is done, it should be possible to assing each player the minutes played.


Interesting, but it doesn't match the game simulation for WO, wheres players may be fouled out very soon.
Check this example :
(46129580)

As you can see (on the live report), ALL the players of the winning team got fouled out, plus three lucky fans as well. A player managed, G. knows how, to make seven (!) fouls. Those were reasonably good players who had no reason to harass the opponents (un)lucky fans.

It is funny watching indeed.

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220075.15 in reply to 220075.13
Date: 6/16/2012 12:00:08 AM
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. You're somehow implying that getting 48 minutes at one position is some sort of a reasonable expectation for a game -- it is not.

My trainees get 48 minutes a game at one position all the time, so from my point of view it is somewhat reasonable. Obviously it's not guaranteed due to injuries and foul outs, but it works probably 75% of the time. I still maintain that not having this as a possibility at all in a walk over is a slight penalty.

That makes sense. I meant to say that while 48 minutes is a likely outcome, there is no expectation of certainty for this -- I guess it didn't come out very clear.

Yes, I can agree with you that having a 100% chance of not getting 48 minutes in a walkover can be considered a penalty of sorts. My understanding is that that the intent of the developers is to have trainees play in multiple games in order to receive training minutes, and everything else is a "do it at your own risk" type of affair -- that is to say blowouts are functioning as expected.


Or atleast a way/option to get 36 minutes for a guy period, and 12 minutes for another period. and have the 2-3 guys on rotating schedules so each can get the 48 mins they need. in Real life, 36 mins a game is a guarenteeable possibiliyu barring injury.

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220075.16 in reply to 220075.15
Date: 6/16/2012 11:30:38 AM
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From the second post in this thread:
player set on starter slot receives 36 minutes
player set on backup slot receives 10 minutes (if he isn't set on starter slot)
player set on backup slot receives 5 minutes (if he is set on starter slot too)
player set on reserve slot receives 2 minutes
player set on bench slot receives 0 minutes

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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220075.17 in reply to 220075.16
Date: 6/16/2012 11:41:58 AM
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yeah but that was regarding WO games.

I mean in general