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From: tough
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Date: 3/5/2013 7:32:37 PM
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questions for the people running...I will try to keep it to that everyone I'm talking about is involved.

1st off, how are you going to improve the players? I'd like to see more secondary-efficient players, and less of those Joe Bros, or Jairo prime, or any other 250k+ person. Who would be the people to train those guys? We know that the D4 and D5 guys only listen to U21 and not NT because they want the money now and some are greedy people (SOME, not all) and then some people (D3ers) are trying to promote into D2 and sometimes don't have the time to train, and then you NBBAers already have as much of a load as you can, and you can't take no more (training or salary big time guys, etc.) So where would these guys go? Do we get all the MVP+ guys and let lower division guys train them first off, and then they sale to the big time people? Do we just let them go how they are and hope they won't get salary hiked? Or do the NBBA guys take yet another big sacrifice and train the guys that are open? I know there are some people out there that would listen, but I just think it's too few managers out side USA that are willing to train an NT worthy guy right. Just take this into consideration........

2nd (maybe a question after the news announcement is out) how is the training of the future NT Guys now going to be affected by these game engine changes? Will it mean a good thing or a bad thing?

3rd, what are your goals going to be as NT manager (other then hoisting the trophy) what are your skill goals? Manager goals? NT Staff and Scouters goals?

just asking these few questions.......

3 Time NBBA Champion. Certified Trainer. Mentor. Have any questions? Feel free to shoot me a BB-Mail!
From: NewEra

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Date: 3/5/2013 7:51:46 PM
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Hi, I am one of the candidates in this election.

What I have found to be the biggest problem is the imbalance of the roster. Only 4 players on team are guards (6'7' or less). Slovensko's (Slovakia) NT has 9 and they were the runner up last year! While I understand that big men typically have higher salaries and that our offense is look inside, BUT we need more and better guards. I compared our team's salary to some other teams and we spend a TON on our team. Unfortunately, our results are not paying off. (Our team kind of reminds me of the Lakers this seasons) The issue may be deeper in that guards are not trained as much. If that is the case, then we as a country must encourage the training of our young, talented guards.

I will be constantly checking this thread so keep the questions coming!
-NeoBulls

From: NewEra

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Date: 3/5/2013 8:03:49 PM
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1. As stated in my previous post, I would focus on improving the guards since our big men are as good as they can get. A more balanced team is necessary if we want a shot at winning. Specifically, I'd want to make sure that ALL players have good passing in order to keep the ball moving better. Turnovers KILL teams. The U.S. can afford high salary players, that is not the issue in my opinion. We simply need to make better use of the money we spend/waste. The people who should train these NT players should definitely be the NBBA, D.II juggernauts and even SOME D.III teams. It is impossible for the lower teams to control the monstrous salaries. The NBBA specifically should lead by example, and help establish a strong national presence. They can afford the salaries better than anyone else and should bear the burden of training players.

2. No comment until after the announcement.

3. I spend a lot of time on this game and have come to love it. My personal goal is to raise my managing ability to the next level. For the country, I want us to of course win a championship, but more importantly I want to establish a more unified connection between American users. We spend so much time battling each other in our leagues that sometimes we forget that we are ALL made to look bad by other countries. I say it is time to bring the gold back home.

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Date: 3/5/2013 9:24:32 PM
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From: Aradrad

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Date: 3/5/2013 9:27:09 PM
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Unfortunately, while those are all good ideas, many managers do not feel the same. A lot of people have different goals in this game, and a lot of people in the NBBA and DII are willing to party with an NT player rather than bear the financial burden and be less successful at the club level. These players usually go to Chinese or other foreign teams. And these foreign teams, or even local teams are unwilling to communicate with the NT. The answer is not quite so cut and dried as you or I would hope here.

Addressing your point about guards: The US actually has a lot of guards, and I wouldn't take the roster you see right now in between seasons as any indication. I am curious to see how you came to the conclusion that our imbalance has contributed to our troubles. In fact, I would say that imbalance is an issue, but of a different kind. Skill imbalances with heavy emphasis on primaries often leave us outclassed by foreign powers that are already experimenting and implementing especially bigs with a wide range of skills.

From: jfarb

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Date: 3/5/2013 9:32:03 PM
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Hey NewEra, good speech Please come check out our NT depth chart or the on the offsite forum if you have the time, or you can just look through the database. I think it will help you fine tune your arguments and understand the players, pipelines, skill sets we are currently working with. Agree on the NBBA thing! We are trying our best I think though.

(http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/)

From: NewEra

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Date: 3/5/2013 9:40:14 PM
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I'm completely open to new ideas and suggestions. It is the NATIONAL team after all, not just one person's. I will take a look at your suggestions. I am still relatively new to the national level of competition, so any advice is much appreciated. Just knowing that the NBBA players are paying attention to the problems of our NT is a great indication of future progress. Thanks for the input!

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Date: 3/5/2013 9:56:14 PM
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To everyone

If elected wat would be the first thing u do?

From: NewEra

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Date: 3/5/2013 10:03:36 PM
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Of course the answer won't be simple, there are so many competitive countries out there that any improvements will be difficult. I don't want you to think that my solution is simple, I was just outlining some of the goals and hopes I would have. The details are of course the hard part. But I believe if other NT's can be successful, than there is no reason we can't. We need to become more organized and come up with a lasting solution TOGETHER.

I looked at most of the games our team played last season and noticed some trends. First of all, our team needs more variation with stats. A balanced team usually wins from my experience. Like you said, our team got outmatched with the secondaries mostly. In addition, our three point shooting was pretty weak, although that is a common trend among most of our competitors. I believe that passing is one of the most important aspects of the game, so I would want to improve that if possible. Like you said, we need change. We can't get left behing in the dust by other countries that are trying new ideas. What we have done clearly doesn't work, so I just suggested some new ideas.

I will admit that I have a lot to learn, but that I am open-minded. Even if I don't get elected this season, the ideas I learn will stay with me forever. Thanks for the CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! ( useful advice as opposed to some trolls that simply criticize with no ideas of their own)

"Leadership is lifting a person’s vision to high sights, the raising of a person’s performance to a higher standard, the building of a personality beyond its normal limitations." —Peter Drucker



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237178.19 in reply to 237178.17
Date: 3/5/2013 10:10:04 PM
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I would skip school and run around the house screaming with happiness.

On a more serious note, my first order of business would be to completely analyze the database and start forming a vision for the team. I would want the team to have an identity of some sort. My first action would be to use the forums as a medium to bring up ALL problems people have with the team so that I will be more informed. From there, my decision will vary depending on the details I have learned. In general, I plan to switch up the team by focusing more one secondary skills in order to have a more balanced roster. My own team has worked best in the past when passing in particular was good. But a major peace of my plan is to organize the active users better. Maybe have something like a weekly chat to discuss ideas and issues? Those would be among the first things I would do.

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