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Please feel free to ignore my scoring suggestion. I just threw somenumbers out there, but I feel like I have created a monster.

My rationale was that winning a title is harder than winning a cup as there is less luck involved. B3 is the hardest achievement to get (so maybe 5 points is conservative). For WC and Regional NT titles I think the fact that a lot of managers are excluded from the competition and teams some countries have wider user bases counts.

Also clearly winning a title in Poland, Italy , Spain, US or whatever other nation with lots of users and isn't like winning in Pakistan or Wales which is why I would not rank those who have similar points, but make a list of those who make a cut at 20 or 30 or 40+. I'm sure it's difficult to pick among people who have won a lot considering the specific circumstances of the nations they were in, or comparing S05 v S25.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/4/2014 7:16:34 AM

No problem mate, about the small countries, don't know what to say.
My country have around 250 active teams so was just wondering why there are no teams from it on the list.

About the rating system we could discuss.
I would make it on another way.
For example:

B3 winner - 10 points
Runner up B3 - 5 points
National league - 5 points
National Cup - 3 points
Runner up League and Cup - 1 point

-I would give points for all who played in B3 finals, it's not easy to get there, trust me.
-The second thing, I don't think 1 League title is the same as 3 Cup winnings like on your ranking.
-And the last, would give a symbolic 1 point for those who played the finals of their Leagues or Cups, cos they have a trophy too, its just in silver variant.

Cheers

As for other systems the point should also consider the nation where you play. Getting xx trophies in randomstan it's not like getting a championship in top nations. Like for golden boot there should be a coefficient for every nation.

That's true, let's say, teams on the list are teams they play in countries with 50 or more active teams, simple.

It wasn't his ranking, but some numbers I made up.

I second your scoring though. You make valid points. Only I'd argue National title is probably easier than a B3 final actually (unless you are in Poland apparently). Maybe B3 10; Runner up B3 5 (semifinal should count too but too much burden on the calculations); League 4; Cup 2; Runner ups 1; WC title 5; Regional NT titles 3?

I just give an idea, in the end we make the list for fun.

It's fact that's harder to get in B3 final then winning the National League, there could be a correction.

B3 winner 10
B3 Runner-up 6
National League 5
National Cup 3
Runner-up League and Cup 1

So few things here, again I would let the difference between the League and Cup title be 5-3 (2 points)
On your example the League title is worth like 2 Cup titles, for me, it's not the same to have 1 golden medal, or 2 golden medals, in the and the same teams play in the League and in the Cup, why should one be more worth then the other? Ofc the League is the top success you can get in your country so it should be fair about the ratio 5-3.

About the WC and Regional titles. I wouldn't mix the NT things with personal success. Not all managers are NT trainers, some of them train top NT-s, the other guys train weaker NT-s and some guys don't like to be NT trainers.

Give the best manager of the world an 40-50 NT on the ranking list, he can't make anything with it.
There is a big difference to get success with your own team, building it from nothing to the top, and being an NT manager, just call the best players of the country and put the formation, no finances, no plans, no training, nothing..

Are we sure we want to add in runner-ups ? Yes it's hard to get to the finals at any stage but at the same Time they still didn't win. Is there any way we can tie in winning percentage instead?

then i have 26 point only for b3 :D

b3 is much harder than other cups ...

I have a new point idea ...

win b3 : 20
runner up in b3 : 12
1/2 : 8
1/4 : 6
1/8 : 4
1/16 : 2
league thropy : 3
runner up in league : 1
National Tournament winner : 2
runner up in National Tournament : 1

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you can choise 1 team from each country and create a list ...

for another promissin , you can analyze only the best active team at each country ...

Hey some on the top 20 list had a reply lol :). But I like the idea one team per county but idk about active only because most people feel like BC Torooo should be on the list as well as some other great former teams and I still feel like we should only count winners not runner ups but and winning percentage should count.
.9= 9 points
.850= 8.5 points
.8= 8 points
.750= 7.5 points
Ect.

I'm sure if someone would ask me. Runner-up is a guy who made to the final of something and he got a silver trophy, and top trophies should count symbolic with 1 point.

@Misagh Alizade: don't like your idea, too much for B3, the points should get only teams they got some trophies (gold or silver).

Btw, when I was at the top with my team on WR 1 and etc, I never tried something on B3, all those seasons I was concentrated on my League and Cup. B3 was a competition where you could win if you have 1.5 mil or more salaries, lot of other guy never tried it too, a try was not worth all those money..
Now the situation is better with the Taxes, GDP and etc where the skill of the manager is in the 1st plan.

Anyway, making this list is ungrateful, but people make it for fun, they try to see "who is the best" but the real answer no one knows. Cheers

But it always fun to have conversations ask those type of questions. Always good to have healthy debates