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Thought a slight adjustment to salary for secondaries was fair, not a fan of seeing a stronger adjustment coming next year. I may have wasted the last 3 seasons training secondaries trying to build bigs for my princeton/patient team that could defend against LI.

And really not a fan of the promotion rules, or the boycott. The way I build a team is to build from the ground up, compete for a couple seasons, sell off and 'trust the process'. I liked the ability to compete for a few seasons, then focus on training for a few seasons. Now it seems like you have to be perpetually competing, and have made it really difficult to build up assets. I think that will just hinder younger teams, and discourage folks for risking it to go for it all because building back up will take so long.

Overall, I'm not sure whether the way I enjoy playing the game is in line with BB thinks it should be played. Fortunately I have some assets built up, so I'll have a chance to take another shot at BBB before considering whether to stick around.

Last edited by Fresh24 at 12/10/2016 19:30:57

Changing the relegation system is total bogus and I hope this decision is heavily reviewed before it is implemented, if it is even implemented at all. I do get that we want to make earning a promotion a bit easier, especially since I've seen great teams who deserve it miss out due to play-off injuries. But forcing teams to either make the play-offs or risk relegation is unfair, especially on teams who have just promoted and need a reasonable opportunity to stabilise in the division they have been bumped up to.

I think back to my first ABBL season. I did a lot better than I expected to and finished 13-9, but just missed the play-offs and finished 5th. Is it really fair on a team that wins 59% of games in their first season at the top, to force them to play a relegation series to survive, even if they would have HCA for it?

What BB is proposing is that six teams out of a total of sixteen get relegated every season in any given league. I have never seen any league in real life that features promotion and relegation do this. I didn't like the fact that HatTrick made it top four or possible bust (just one more thing I didn't like about it), and I do not like that proposal here either.

This is the bed that BB made by having a 1-4-16-64 league pyramid in the first place. The only way I can see this working fairly for both promotion and relegation is by migrating to a 1-3-9-27 pyramid... but that creates problems of its own during the transitional season/s.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 12/10/2016 23:12:26

I dont like the promotion system too. I can see situations when team with guaranteed best record do the sell out before the last game of the season.
Dont understand the salary formula change. We have been encouraged to train balanced players by changes to the training system some time ago (elastic effect or whatever it was called) and now we are gonna pay more salaries.
Dont like the boycott and salary floor changes. Now, with extremely high prices on tl, many teams that promoted cant even afford to get to the salary floor in the first season after promotion.
Like draft improvements but I dont get too excited about it until I see it.
Also like micronations problem solution, more tutorial rewards for new users and roster limit.

Last edited by LukeRev at 12/11/2016 00:02:40

The higher salary floor and the competitiveness measure is trolling at its finest. Info was released after the first season game, when one would expect that the roster for the upcoming season should be set.

I dismantled my roster to tank and this change completely blindsided me, I am soooo excited!!! Where can I donate my money?

Im really happy about the fan boycott. Its just unrealistic what happened before. You loose games on purpose and become rich? Totally stupid.

What I dont get, is the planned change in the playdowns. Six teams per league would demote then each season? Thats way too much. The current system is the best.

Dont change things which are good.

Will there actually be a general vote about it? Would be a nice idea

And really not a fan of the promotion rules, or the boycott. The way I build a team is to build from the ground up, compete for a couple seasons, sell off and 'trust the process'. I liked the ability to compete for a few seasons, then focus on training for a few seasons. Now it seems like you have to be perpetually competing, and have made it really difficult to build up assets. I think that will just hinder younger teams, and discourage folks for risking it to go for it all because building back up will take so long.
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But thats just totally unrealistic.
And its more difficult to stay strong than just safe money and buy all good players you see for too much money.
Including the fan boycott, long-term investments are honoured. FINALLY!

I would even decrease income in all ranges.
Nobody would visit a match of a team, which looses all matches by more than 50 points. Nobody!

Nobody would visit a match of a team, which looses all matches by more than 50 points. Nobody!

That's true but the criteria announced (which seems to be active for the current season already) is not based on point differential. If you are the weakest team in a league you may lose 8 straight games even though you're trying and some games are close. They tried to soften it by linking the decrease to how much money you have, but I would have preferred a PD sort of criteria rather than the simple loss streak.

The S37 news is very Angela Merkel-esque.
You throw out a couple of cosmetic changes, half-assed ideas and vague announcements to create the illusion of working hard while the summary of the news is: we did nothing to address the major problems of the game.

Draft: ok
Salary: missed chance
Promotion: dont like it

I may have missed something, but does the second promoted team get a promotion bonus as well as the first? If not, how can they hope to compete the following season? And if so, can anyone calculate how much money will be injected into the economy by the instant doubling of promotion bonuses? Even if they get half of the league winner, that's an awful lot of cash. I do hope the BBs have a plan to stop the inflation that would cause. 98 countries, I have no idea how many leagues with people in them. North of 1000. Maybe 2 billion dollars. Possibly worse than the "Utopia Effect."

I still don't really want to get into the salary "increase." I commented in the previous thread and you can read that if you like. However, one thing again disturbs me in regard to the economy. The so called salary increase has actually caused salaries to fall. Again, this means more cash in the economy. I hate to be the voice of doom, but the BBs don't seem to grasp that most people feel the economy is already broken. Two changes intended to improve the game are going to make the economy worse. Do any of the BBs even think about the consequences of the changes they make?

One of the reasons salaries are falling is because of the removal of players who are too good for free agency. Again, this stops cash flowing out of the game, and keeps it in so that people have more cash to spend. With nothing to spend it on but lesser players and trainers. Oh dear.