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Agree. +1.

Enough with the ignorant and imaginary takes. Tatum lead the NBA in MPG in the last playoffs, which incidentally were WITHOUT travel as all the games were played in the same place.

Tatum averaged 40.6 MPG for 20 games. The number of games he played more than 44 minutes? ONE: game 6 against Toronto that ended in a DOUBLE OT. Murray (39.6 MPG) had 4 such games (44+) out of the 17 he played, but ZERO over 45.12 minutes.

The one real life argument in favour of stamina being less of an issue in clutch situations is Jimmy Butler averaging 43 minutes in the NBA finals, including a 47 minute effort in game 5 to keep Miami alive. But what happened as a result of Butler barely resting in games 2-6 was that he was too tired to defend, and LeBron become even more dominant in the series than he usually is.

On the flip side, BB players can only play 2 games a week without taking huge GS penalties. This is a very light load by NBA standards. Many aspects of BB are unrealistic, but that doesn't always mean there's a problem.

Regarding roster size, larger rosters currently have the advantage of being more resistant to injuries and foul outs. They're also able to balance competitiveness in league and cup play, while maintaining good game shape. Their only weakness is that in must win games, top-heavy 5 man teams can beat them.

Like I said before, if you change this and weaken 5 man teams, then you're eliminating part of the strategy. Just get 8 good players and you're set for the league, cup and B3.

Another problem with this is that larger, deeper rosters are usually more expensive in terms of salary, so we may go back to a situation where it's the richest team who always wins in B3.

Pffft the same lame argument used over and over. Everytime there is a balancing change there is some lame person who think he won't be able to win anymore and starts crying and moaning.

Will you still be able to field 5 players? Yes, like you always could: find a way to make it work, just like people have made it work from the fateful day that Marin had some of his genius ideas and made it possible to play at the top level with 5/6 players.

Let's do this then O lame: let's simply UNDO the changes to GS calculation, remove the psychologist and go back to how things were 15-20 seasons ago, because, you know, with the changes he did back then, Marin removed larger rosters from the strategic part of the game. Laaaame.

Actually Marin should know what I alluded in the previous post is the way to destroy these 5 man farce without having to tinker with ST depletion rates, which, as many pointed out, may affect training.

I mean he should change sub patterns and make ST depletion a thing, at some point in the future, but the simplest way to eliminate these kind of travesty from the B3 (and any other level) is to simply kill the GS of these players. Remove the GS sensitivity to ST, punish MUCH harder any player who plays more minutes than the sweet spot and make the psychologist affect only players who played too few minutes (kinda opposite of the massage doctor and will help injured players), not too many. Note that this has no effect on training as most trainees only start 1 game a week and GS is largely irrelevant for them anyway.

Then if you want to play 5 starters, 1.1m salary, on 7 and 8 GS against 7-800k starters in 9 GS it's up to you. At least you have a meaningful choice and a valid trade-off. And if you are able to keep 5 players in 9 GS despite the changes above, then you deserve to win, but it doesn't have to be EASY spoonfeeding like it currently is and like it has been in the last 15 seasons.

Also make firings other than draftees count for the tax and affect the fan survey more heavily. Or have teams pay a severance fee in case they fire a players in the first 7 days. A lot of these teams playing 5 highly paid starters also exploit buying and firing scrubs. Fix that also and you chip away at the viability of 5/6 man behemoths

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/31/2020 8:35:35 PM

Well i have experienced (as NT coach) significant increase in foul tendency of various players trying to train! Is this change in GE towards short rosters?? If so, this is again BB-ish decision. Very lame.. Player that was not foul trouble for 3 seasons suddenly cant make 48mins due to fouls.. 2 games in row.. And there is more like that i am being notified by our managers!

May I have a look at those players? I'm interested in these things.

lets start with these 2. One is mine, one is our NT future prospect. It started january 21st. Especially mine is very very suspicious. But also young prospect wasnt acting like this before - he had 3,5f/g, now he is ca 12/g!!!
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