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From: matthros

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321576.10 in reply to 321576.9
Date: 10/10/2023 4:39:05 PM
Union Klaffer
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If you want high OD on the player, go for high HA, otherwise not.

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321576.11 in reply to 321576.8
Date: 10/10/2023 7:09:27 PM
Tampines Fusion
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Does HA give elastics to OD, or is it DR, or both?

This is actually the first training thread I've read which actually talked about HA. Every other thread seem to focus solely on DR. Is that because DR gives more elastics than HA? Or is it because of its in game performance benefits? Or is it because 1 on 1 forwards make training normal players easier?

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321576.12 in reply to 321576.11
Date: 10/11/2023 12:09:40 AM
BC "EDI"
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It's because HA trains a bit of OD on itself which is very valuable on bigs.

It's a double edged sword - HA relies on players height, DR does not. By training HA you don't get JS IS and get less DR and HA, but you get OD.

If youe player is around 210cm i would still go for DR PG/SG, if he is closer to 203 i would go for HA.

Also, this is only for NT level monsters, If you train dor yourself or profit I would start either with DR or SB

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321576.13 in reply to 321576.12
Date: 10/11/2023 12:47:51 AM
Tampines Fusion
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Ah, thanks for the explanation. It certainly makes sense now.

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321576.14 in reply to 321576.11
Date: 10/14/2023 2:34:08 AM
Internazionale Torreense
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Training HA will

- increase elastics for OD
- give OD some secondary training
- avoid training JS/DR as much as possible, where players with high OD/PA/HA fit much better, and you need HA for PA, altough TO numbers can vary according to user experience

In general it does make sense to train HA for some specific builds

I don't know where you got it but DR does not give elastic effect to OD, only HA gives

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321576.15 in reply to 321576.14
Date: 10/14/2023 5:37:13 AM
Tampines Fusion
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I don't know where you got it but DR does not give elastic effect to OD

Probably literally every training thread? Which is why almost everyone goes 1 on 1 forwards? You're the first person I've seen who says it does not give elastic effect to OD. Where'd you get your info from?

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321576.17 in reply to 321576.15
Date: 10/14/2023 10:57:34 AM
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Where did I get this info? Literally every single thread that I have read, also there is a thread about the elastic effect coefficient

If you really did your research you would have noticed that on coach parrot there are the coefficients for the elastic effect of skills, if you don't know about that then you should try a little bit more instead of stating fake info as truth in public threads for others to see, especially newbies that don't know anything about this game.

It's a bit tiring to read your uninformed replies and assumptions in many threads, it's also dangerous for other uninformed players or newbies as they may assume your misinformation as truth. Instead of assuming and stating things openly and plainly, when you don't know or are not sure about something write in a way that you ask questions, which would help improve the quality of information on the threads you are active on, just my 2 cents

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321576.18 in reply to 321576.17
Date: 10/14/2023 8:43:40 PM
Tampines Fusion
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It's a bit tiring to read your uninformed replies and assumptions in many threads, it's also dangerous for other uninformed players or newbies as they may assume your misinformation as truth. Instead of assuming and stating things openly and plainly, when you don't know or are not sure about something write in a way that you ask questions, which would help improve the quality of information on the threads you are active on, just my 2 cents.

I have ever said everything I said were set in stone. Which is why I always ask questions when people bring up things. I don't come up with my own info, I go through a lot of forum posts and base my ideas from there. If someone comes up with something more convincing or solid, then I will stick to that.

If you're so annoyed by my wrong info, why don't you come out more often to share? ;)

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321576.19 in reply to 321576.16
Date: 10/14/2023 8:49:40 PM
Tampines Fusion
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The original analysis by wozzvt showed that it was HA elastically linked to OD, not DR.

It's hard to disentangle because most things that train HA also train DR. But, his analysis showed that HA was more important and very likely the driving factor.

Ah, thanks for the info. Now I have to change what I look out for when training XD

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321576.20 in reply to 321576.18
Date: 10/15/2023 1:45:43 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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It might help to differentiate the things you've read (for example: a lot of people train 1v1 for the elastic effect) and your own ideas/conclusions (1v1 trains DR mainly, so DR causes the elastic effect for OD).

We can agree on the first observation, but your conclusion based on that observation might be wrong.

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