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Don't think I've ever seen a team with so many guys at or around the same age. How many of those 23 year olds are you actively training? Any of them on track for USA NT?

Last edited by Dunkface at 7/30/2024 7:21:22 PM

Well, I bought Taylor and Hayes off the market while they were mostly trained. When I started this rebuild I wanted to create a team of trainees with SF builds so I bought a bunch of 6'5" to 6'8" 18 yo to train. And since I prefer to use only USA players, I tend to hold them forever.

Shelton and Edwards were my main trainees though their U21 season, although only Edwards made the U21 team. Shelton is my #1 so he probably has the best NT chance given he's an MVP potential.

Edwards is pretty much done with his outside training so he's just sitting there waiting for the rest. Connor is the #3 priority behind Shelton and Edward. Nava and Hayes fall behind them. Guillen and Griffith are cup/scrimmage players at this point and aren't being trained.

The reality of the current training system is that I'll be lucky to get Shelton, Edwards, and maybe 2 of Connor, Nava or Hayes to a finished point. Shelton should get to over 140 TSP when he's done. Edwards and Connor will probably be around 130. Nava and Hayes will likely end up in the 120s.

I will say though, that the team accountants are appalled at the amount of money being spent on transfers and salaries for the training staff these past 6 seasons.

Last edited by lvess at 7/31/2024 8:48:18 AM

I did something similar with my Utopia team but only have 3 21yo on U21NTs which has been fun but painstaking. I'm glad BB put the second team in as an option so I can have a functional one and an experimental one. The level 6-7 trainers and the upgraded areans...not a cheap cost. I think our accountants can share a beer together!

After my last NBBA relegation in S.58 I did a full tear down and invested in the $4M arena and Merch store to maximize my income and be able to, eventually, support higher salaries at that level. Between that and buying trainees I must have spent $7M+ between S.59 and S.60.

After that, and having to buy trainees due to a crappy draft class, I had to settle for a L6 trainer and youth trainer. I upgraded to a L7 trainer when I dropped the youth one. That said, the prices for L7 trainers are insane. I refuse to pay those $1.5M+ bids for the more reasonable salaried ones as the ROI will never break even. I just replaced my trainer a few weeks ago and the one I dropped was over $90k per week. That just insane. Necessary, but insane.

I do this too. At this point I actually train on the USA team only for nostalgia. In the current market, training a serious prospect is a financial loser (especially if they have to buy the player, but even if you draft them you have the scouting cost that's significant). Between the cost of the coaching, the arena expansions, and the hit in performance when you have to play a young guy 48 minutes in an important league game, you could only make your money back if resale prices were much higher. When you add in that you can buy transformative older players for pennies, training ends up being an impediment to winning, which is unfortunate.

When I rejoined the game, I decided that my USA team was going to go after every win and cut every corner, while my Utopia team was going to take it slow, smell the training flowers, and explore the different builds that the training system affords. If I wanted to take this to the extreme, I'd probably start training only Stamina on the USA team, but I can't let go of the Friday morning rush when I see the little up arrows

Last edited by Coco at 8/1/2024 10:35:17 AM

As a counterpoint to my earlier somewhat depressing post, here's an uplifting one. I purchased Quanfu when I rejoined and put 2 life-years of training into him. He was never going to be the elite of the elite, but I built him up enough that he's been a dominant force at PF for this level of league. And the fact that I trained him helped me get him to a point of salary vs. performance which is advantageous for us.

You're absolutely right on there. Training your own players is not a money spinning strategy that's for sure.

I've always wondered how some managers seem to be able to regularly spend $2M+ on players, trainees or trainers. I've been here for 10 full years and never had more than $5-6M in my bank account tops. Even that required a complete firesale of every NBBA level player and semi-finished trainee I had.

I would love to start a project of completely homegrown players. However that was next to impossible to do in any serious way before the draft was juiced up in the past few seasons. There are so many interesting builds that could be pursued. Unfortunately, the limitation on number of trainees and the financial costs involved with training limit the upside of that kind of project IMO.

Yes!! I totally remember you!! Did you ever win the top league? I feel like I remember you making it up there.

Yea, I got lucky that my aging NBBA team peaked right as a couple other teams started rebuilding. Won 2 league titles and a Cup in a 3 season span before my guys got old.

Spent a handful of seasons in the NBBA since then but never with a top tier team again.

GL to everyone in the playoffs! I'm pretty strapped for money, put my team in a bad spot, will have to make decisions right after the season. Then I look at the 3m sitting at my utopia team and ....sigh.

I fell just short of auto promotion with the two losses. But managed to be second in line for auto promotion, so if Deronimo II.4 were to win his league title, I'd auto promote.

In the playoffs ... I'll be a non-factor. I too put myself in a difficult financial spot to try to get auto promo (mismanaging the game against SK, plus an injury really screwed up the intended plan), so I knew I couldn't hold on to my team through the playoff (plus some guys had too many drops and weren't effective anymore).