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Na, non-supporters are still collecting flags when they play scrimmages, although the flags aren't shown at the overview page.

Non-supporters can't play in a PL, so then they could not get those extra games for flags, which would be unfair.

Exactly, and that is why PL games wont garner flags.

Ok...I didn't think about the possibility to collect flags if you're not a supporter!..that's correct..non supporters collect flags but can't see them...

In this case I have to say that my purpose failed...but for a good reason...

I see no reason why the flag should not be given. But it might depend on how one looks at it. Some say: "I've visited the lands for wcich I have a flag". Others say:" These countries have visited my arena".
I'd like to say: I've played teams from these countries.
If having a flag means the latter, then there should be flags for B3 games. So personally I am pro. ;)

Also teams playing in the B3 tournament have either won the cupfinal, or probably went a long way in the cup, which means they had only few scrimages to get flags. I went in the quarter finals last year and I think I collected 5 (or maybe6?) flags. Seeing BB adds 4 new lands each season this means the cupwinner can't catch up on flags. So here again I'd say YES to this proposition.
:)

(and no I am not in B3 tournament)

I think that you should to get flag from every match you play in a new country. (PL, B3 whatever)

You visited that country you shoud to get a flag - and if you got it by the way that you are playing PL because you are a supporter, your flags will be visited AFTER you will be a supporter anyway, so you will have a same chance for get them by the same way...

..btw I think that flags are not such a big deal to erase them from PL just because any kind of "justice" or something like that

Last edited by Iordanou at 6/7/2008 9:29:31 AM

I say: PL leagues are 'arcade' mode, you don't get a flag.
If you are in a soccer team in real life, and you play international games and get those players' flags, does that mean you will receive a flag if you play a soccer game on computer? no.
This might not be good example for 'arcade' but when nothing affects the game, NOTHING should affect the game.

Should PL games start to produce flags, I personally will stop being part of the flagchasers. I do not wish to put extra time in the game which I otherwise would not, just because I need to keep up collecting flags.
Besides, joining a PL league would not bring me any fun since I never can watch a Friday game live, I would only join becasue I want the flag, not caring about my line-up, how interesting would that be for the other participants?

if you see scrimmage flagchase as a competition which is exciting you, is true that flags on PL could not be welcomed

In that case I would not change the arcade system of PL in this issue

This is not a big deal, enjoy a flagchase:)

:)

well, I have to admid that I am not loosing my cup games to get more flags, so I'm not that dedicated to flagchasing. But with PL leagues this is going to create a lot of trouble.

First off leagues with 16 diffrent countries are going to be created, the possible wait time for these to fill up might be long, then some teams will want to get out again because it takes too long and bla bla bla, while others might be filled up quick enough and 16 extra flags are added to their case in 1 seasons' time. I see a lot of potential stress there and I just wanted to say I'm not going to participate in it. ;)

In B3 there is no arrangement + the ones getting flags this way will get just 1 or 2 befor being kicked out. Teams that are lucky enough to gain 5 flags this way are REALY lucky, since they can't choose the lands they play, and don't forget most B3 teams didn't collect too many flags last season, so with some luck they can get some extra in B3. It is no arcade mode, so the flag should count. All this is why I am pro this idea.

I think the cuurent mode - get flags only for scrimmages - is in all the best and fairest way!

Let it like it is and all will be fine - my opinion!!!