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54231.10 in reply to 54231.5
Date: 10/19/2008 10:39:21 AM
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I think this match is a bug. It has to be a bug.
I suspect a problem in matches where there are two levels of attitude difference.

I just see a game where the team with the worse points per 100 shots numbers lost. Which is logical. Is there anything else we're supposed to be looking at?


I just see a game where the team with the best team ratings, and the only team who tried, lost. Which is illogical.

That's something wrong, also because the team ratings and the points per 100 shots speak about two different matches.

The instrument that is 100% indicative of team strength is points per 100 shots.

Team ratings might give you an idea about how strong a team is, but they are not foolproof. Likewise, CT with very low enthusiasm is not much better than a Normal.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 10/19/2008 10:42:11 AM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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54231.11 in reply to 54231.6
Date: 10/19/2008 10:41:30 AM
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PS however, I don't think it's a bug, but we have to tell the truth: Frency was very unlucky and we can't assume that the result of the match is right..

I don't necessarily assume that the result is right. But team ratings and CT/TIE info are not the only (or even the major) factors determining who wins.


Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 10/19/2008 10:43:08 AM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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54231.12 in reply to 54231.10
Date: 10/19/2008 10:46:50 AM
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I think this match is a bug. It has to be a bug.
I suspect a problem in matches where there are two levels of attitude difference.

I just see a game where the team with the worse points per 100 shots numbers lost. Which is logical. Is there anything else we're supposed to be looking at?


I just see a game where the team with the best team ratings, and the only team who tried, lost. Which is illogical.

That's something wrong, also because the team ratings and the points per 100 shots speak about two different matches.


Team ratings might give you an idea about how strong a team is, but they are not foolproof. Likewise, CT with very low enthusiasm is not much better than a Normal.


enthusiasm 8 is very low??!

that's really a news!

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54231.13 in reply to 54231.12
Date: 10/19/2008 11:01:16 AM
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enthusiasm 8 is very low??!

I'm pointing out possible reasons, not delivering judgment about what the enthusiasm actually was.

Again, points per 100 possessions is strictly what determines the game outcome. If they were identical to team ratings, then it wouldn't make sense to have both of them.

It is obviously not up to me to decide whether there was a bug or not. But 'there must be a bug' is not necessarily the only explanation for the situation.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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54231.14 in reply to 54231.13
Date: 10/19/2008 12:39:54 PM
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Again, points per 100 possessions is strictly what determines the game outcome.

Do not forget Reb, FT (fouls), TO and BLK.

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54231.15 in reply to 54231.14
Date: 10/19/2008 12:53:41 PM
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Again, points per 100 possessions is strictly what determines the game outcome.

Do not forget Reb, FT (fouls), TO and BLK.

I might have been a bit sloppy with the wording there. But the idea is that whether a shot is a basket or a miss is determined by PP100, and the team ratings are just one of the components in their calculation.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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54231.16 in reply to 54231.13
Date: 10/19/2008 1:00:17 PM
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enthusiasm 8 is very low??!

I'm pointing out possible reasons, not delivering judgment about what the enthusiasm actually was.

Again, points per 100 possessions is strictly what determines the game outcome. If they were identical to team ratings, then it wouldn't make sense to have both of them.

It is obviously not up to me to decide whether there was a bug or not. But 'there must be a bug' is not necessarily the only explanation for the situation.


There must be a bug was only a provocation..

anyway, point per 100 shots can't explain 60 rebounds against 40, while my ratings were better and while the BBs said that rebounds are influenced by attitude!

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54231.17 in reply to 54231.16
Date: 10/19/2008 6:22:20 PM
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There must be a bug was only a provocation..


And that's a terrible way to get your bug report looked at.

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54231.18 in reply to 54231.17
Date: 10/20/2008 9:03:18 AM
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There must be a bug was only a provocation..


And that's a terrible way to get your bug report looked at.


I thought it was a good way to discuss about it, and it is what we have done, without your help.

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54231.19 in reply to 54231.10
Date: 10/20/2008 9:07:53 AM
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WOW! arguably the greatest BB-robbing ever :O

The instrument that is 100% indicative of team strength is points per 100 shots.


and it's funny how they were calculated this time, considering all the circumstances (TIE vs CT, HCA, similar ratings)

Team ratings might give you an idea about how strong a team is, but they are not foolproof. Likewise, CT with very low enthusiasm is not much better than a Normal.


very low enthusiasm is already reflected in the ratings (for what they are worth, i think they're often misleading)

CT with similar ratings should ALMOST never end in a 15 points home loss
well, "almost" is the key word here

i hope this kind of upset won't ever happen to my team

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54231.20 in reply to 54231.11
Date: 10/20/2008 11:44:35 PM
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Why won't someone just tell him the truth?

He got screwed and 9 out of 10 times he wins that game.

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