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my 7'3" center being blocked 3 times by 5'11" center.

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87351.10 in reply to 87351.7
Date: 4/26/2009 2:27:34 AM
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It would be nice if you could see stats correctly. Their C took 7 rebounds total while your C took 20 reb. What's wrong with that? Your C shot 10-22 while his shot 3-20 -> his overall rating was 3.5. The 3 blocks are a useless stat as this game handles blocks poorly. I am pretty sure I could play my SF or SG against your big men and dominate the boards, because you are actually really low on talent if we take II league into consideration.
My overall suggestion for you is: Play the game more than 2 seasons, look at the performance patterns. Make sure you understand that player "SKILLS" determine the outcome not "HEIGHT" and that "HEIGHT" helps to develop "SKILLS" needed for certain positions.
PS! If you train a 5.11 guy in inside skills and do not train that 7.00 guy the 5.11 guy will eventually be better than the 7 footer. If you train both of them in inside skills there is no way 5.11 guy would be better (aslong as we are not comparing 18yo and 32yo :D )!

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87351.11 in reply to 87351.10
Date: 4/26/2009 3:30:15 AM
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I really like the height not being a factor. Think Charles Barkley when he finished. He was a 6'4" PF. One of the best rebounders going around. If I wanted to I could train a Barkley.

I have also played bball against a 6'10" who I out rebounded. I am sub 6'0". Basically at the low levels of sport in the real world some people have more skill than others at boxing out/rebounding. If I was to train with this 6'10" guy to play pro ball he would end up a better rebounder due to height and just like the game. Taller trains up quicker in inside skills.

I like to think of the bottom divisions as scratch basketball. It is just a bunch of guys who turned up for a game and the guy that can rebound plays in the paint and the guy that can shoot from outside does that.

Just my opinion.

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87351.12 in reply to 87351.9
Date: 4/26/2009 5:56:56 AM
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I know that , but I still think height should matter because It would be more fun the more realistic it is. And 5'11 against 7'3 is like Earl Boykins going for a dunk on Tim Duncan it aint happening.


Something like Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming? Oh wait, that did happen ;)

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87351.13 in reply to 87351.9
Date: 4/26/2009 7:54:35 AM
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I know that , but I still think height should matter because It would be more fun the more realistic it is. And 5'11 against 7'3 is like Earl Boykins going for a dunk on Tim Duncan it aint happening.



in germany a 1,84 Center/PF(heigth was taken from a TV team), is going to get the best rebounder of the first leagues the third time in a row. He also was the most effective player, and the 1.84 are with shoes ;) And don't think he score with Jumpshots a lot, he actually shoots 1-17 § pointer in 32 games and thats quite normal for him(maybe he takes less)

So impossible is nothing.

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87351.14 in reply to 87351.9
Date: 4/26/2009 10:31:38 AM
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So you are saying Defense should be directly related to height? Speed and quickness is as much a factor in defending as height is, and smaller players tend to have more of it. Spud Webb won the slam dunk contest and he is what...5'6" or something like that? I am 6'7" tall, does that mean there is no way Spud would be able to guard me or dunk on me? Not likely, he is a basketball player, I am just tall.

Only in Barkleys book is he 6'4" tall. In every sports listing he is listed as 6'6", and I believe the latter is more accurate. 6'6" is still small for the position he played, and played well.

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87351.15 in reply to 87351.14
Date: 4/26/2009 1:26:45 PM
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Seriously I think this should end the argument. Dwayne wade had over 100 blockS this season. He blocked more shots than guys like Dunacan whio is about 7'1. In the current playoffs wade has blocked more shots than Yao Ming who is 1 whole foot taller than him. Nobody is complaining...

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87351.16 in reply to 87351.15
Date: 4/26/2009 5:12:49 PM
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Seriously you guys changed what I said , I think height should have at least a minimum effect in the game as like making it harder for the other PF or C to score or making it slightly easier for blocks.BTW Nate blocked Yao once not like three times .

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87351.17 in reply to 87351.16
Date: 4/26/2009 5:21:57 PM
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Seriously you guys changed what I said , I think height should have at least a minimum effect in the game as like making it harder for the other PF or C to score or making it slightly easier for blocks.BTW Nate blocked Yao once not like three times .


smaller centers have it much harder to compete with bigger guys, because they get less training. So you will see soon thtat big guys have an advantage, and in this way is matters since the second week of the career of a center.

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87351.18 in reply to 87351.16
Date: 4/26/2009 5:57:30 PM
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Seriously get it through you thick scull... Height influences training. So basically height will influence a lot of future games (if you train your player). You will see a lot of different height players dominating the lower league scrub teams. Below ~5k salary guys. The more you move up in salary the less 5.11 centers you will see. It's exactly how it should be.

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87351.19 in reply to 87351.18
Date: 4/26/2009 8:00:23 PM
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OMG I know height affects training im just saying thats it should also have a natural effect in a game.Like a 5k salary C 7'1 vs a 5k salary C 5'11 , the 7'1 could get a little edge . Can you get that through your thick skull?

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87351.20 in reply to 87351.19
Date: 4/26/2009 8:59:19 PM
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I disagree with you, too. There is no reason a Shawn Bradley should have any advantage against a Dwayne Wade. Train your Bradley to a Shaq, and you'll see your effects. Don't train him, and watch him get blocked by Nate Robinsons and get dunked in the face by Rudy Fernadez.

That's as easy as it is...

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