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I dont propose to change training. Out of the 2 problems this is I imagine the easiest to fix.

Just dont make the changes visible to everyone til EVERYONES training run has been complete....

As for the enthusiasm - I have no idea either but what if the away team got play on their normal timeframe and not their opponents (will now try figure out if that makes any sense!)

Hey Charles - thanks for the reply.

Then I assume its me that is still wrong about training.

As I see it now for example I get training at 16.40 local time in Japan on Friday. My understanding is that the training update for lets say the USA takes place AFTER this (maybe 2-3hrs) as it is one of the last countries to update.

SO, if I were in the USA drawn against a team in Asia, I could see their training update (just DMI/GS) and then before my training update I could alter my own to GS training IF i suddenly saw my opponent with all proficients.

It must work like this as when I check the Nippon NT roster at 16.40, I see changes to the players who play locally but have to check back later to check for pops on the other players who play for teams who's training updates are calculated later.

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Daily updates.... would scheduling the games in the local times of the away teams solve anything?

This way the games are still staggered and the away team is then guaranteed to have 1 update and then worse case the home team has 2 updates which is offset by the fact they get the Home court advantage (in the rare cases).

Well i guess there isn't an easy solution as you say..

It's at least comforting to hear I'm not going mad and that these differences (albeit small ones) are there and they do add up if put altogether.

What about the suggestion of playing at the pre-set time of the away team rather than the home?

I still don't understand how having training at different times makes much of a difference for b3 teams. I am pretty sure that the teams in the Americas will not change training based upon the game shape results of Asian or European teams (at least for myself and KDB). Seems like a big waste of time to even worry about this.

As far as the loss of enthusiasm for Asian teams playing in the Americas, I thought that this was just a paranoid cry from Superfly, but seeing as it does exist, should be corrected to protect the integrity of the b3 tournament. From what you wrote, it seems that merely changing the game time (from say 8pm Boston time to 1pm Boston time) would create problems? I would have thought that it could be changed manually with small effort - as previous b3 finals were similarly changed.

I meant that only the games where a team would be disadvantaged with an extra enthusiasm drop should have the time changed. I can't imagine this would occur more than four or five times a tournament. For the rest of the games, I think the current time placement works well.

It's not difficult to change times, but I think it's nice that a team from, say, Australia at least has a 50% chance of having their game take place at a convenient time for watching it. Moving all games to a central time will inevitably mean that teams in the "wrong" time zones will never be able to watch a B3 game without waking up at 4 in the morning.

The irony here is that if you are drawn away this is when you are least likely to watch your game! If you are aware of the other factors which put your team at a disadvantage AND have to play a road game you are in fact giving the manager less incentive to set an alarm clock to wake up and watch his game.

I think the 'reverse' timing could work as you still keep the 50% chance of watching the game.. the only difference being you are now more incentivised to watch your away games via better timing and level playing field. I would assume that HCA still trumps these factors so I would imagine that there is a strong chance of the home manager tuning into the game too, irrespective of the time change.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 7/4/2009 1:20:43 AM

I understand your point, yet I doubt the effect of training GS on high level players.
Meaning, players who already have GS of respectable or higher.

I had a complaint from a guy who trained GS and had players actually drop from proficient to strong, or from strong to respectable. Actually he didn't see much diffrence with training other trainingtypes.
I guess GS training works when you have players with lowes GS, or players who had to many, or to few minutes. But I don't think you can prevent your players from having respectable GS when training GS... so... unless your players are in bad shape, I don't think training GS will do any good...

I never trained GS myself though, so I might be wrong?