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168997.101 in reply to 168997.100
Date: 1/14/2011 11:14:16 PM
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I got some questions

1) if you are Elected, how would this affect your activity on this game

2) how many players do you think is the optimal amount for any team (including NT)

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168997.102 in reply to 168997.101
Date: 1/14/2011 11:32:16 PM
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1) Not sure it will change anything. I have the ability to spend a fair amount of free time on here and will continue to do that. My plan will be to focus first on the NT then on my GM duties and lastly on my club team. I am in tough in Naismith this season so will really only trying to train efectively and not relegate. The NT woulld be my focus and I am really looking forward to the challenge and excitement it will provide.

2) Depends on what a team is training and if they are training one or two positions. My personal team is always around 12-13 as it has worked best for managing gameshape. The plan for the NT will be to carry 10 until there is a reason to add additional players. Those reasons could include poor gameshape, lack of training, player development etc. Around the half way point of season the NT will likely have 12 players and could add one more prior to seasons end.

From: Mannen
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168997.103 in reply to 168997.73
Date: 1/15/2011 3:00:18 AM
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Ok, I will jump back to the question about the perfect PF. Everybody wants secondary skills but whats the cut off. If we take the player stated earlier
JS 13 Jr 6
OD 7 HN 7
DR 9 PA 10
IS 15 ID 17
RB 15
Would you never consider this player for your NT (given both are perfectly kept at top GS):
JS 12 Jr 6
OD 6 HN 7
DR 8 PA 7
IS 17 ID 17
RB 17
If not, are there any values on IS,ID and RB that would make you chose the second player over the first?

If you dont like the example you can use the all outside skills over 8, if instead all are just 7, how much better must that player be inside to be considered or would he never?

/Mannen
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168997.104 in reply to 168997.103
Date: 1/15/2011 10:03:35 AM
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I would take player #1 because he is a better outside defender which would help when facing other PF's with secondary's
plus his passing is good as well oh and his DR. high passing will keep the teams turnovers low(lower) and high driving on a PF is good because then he will attack the basket more( or take more shots from the inside) draw fouls. and is a better shooter as well. :D

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168997.105 in reply to 168997.103
Date: 1/15/2011 10:17:07 AM
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Both players would serve a purpose. Player one would be better suited to play against an outside based offence. And would also be better off in an outside based offence.

Player 2 is obviously is a beast on the inside and can dominate offensively and defensively.

The trouble with alot of player evaluations is that they are not really looking at the big picture. I am a firm believer that there are plenty of very successful builds depending how you choose to buld your team. Depending on whether you plan to build an up tempo team or an inside power team the builds of individuals are very different.

NT's are essentially all-star teams that have the best players at the best positions. My goal will be to find which players perform best in certain tactics and determine if particular line ups are more effective.

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168997.106 in reply to 168997.103
Date: 1/15/2011 10:17:10 AM
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Both players would serve a purpose. Player one would be better suited to play against an outside based offence. And would also be better off in an outside based offence.

Player 2 is obviously is a beast on the inside and can dominate offensively and defensively.

The trouble with alot of player evaluations is that they are not really looking at the big picture. I am a firm believer that there are plenty of very successful builds depending how you choose to buld your team. Depending on whether you plan to build an up tempo team or an inside power team the builds of individuals are very different.

NT's are essentially all-star teams that have the best players at the best positions. My goal will be to find which players perform best in certain tactics and determine if particular line ups are more effective.

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168997.107 in reply to 168997.106
Date: 1/15/2011 12:10:25 PM
Pszczyna Team
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of course you are right beanerz. there is one thing that might force you to make a decision and not change players every game. I am still a noob (that's why i am not competing) and I honestly dont have time to look through the rules, but i think there is a penalty for calling up more than 2 players per week. isnt there? (logic taken from hattrick). If you play look inside and then decide to play run and gun you might want to replace more players than just 2, and that will hurt ???enthusiasm????

if I am right then you might face a choice like that at beginning of a season, and not be able to change a player every game

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168997.108 in reply to 168997.107
Date: 1/15/2011 1:13:53 PM
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If you drop a player off of your roster, it will lower enthusiasm. However, if you have like 14 players on your roster, you have flexibility to change which players start which games among those players. So, you can still use the best players for each tactic. It really doesn't matter much for us though because for most positions, we have a clear starter, no matter what the tactic is.

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168997.109 in reply to 168997.108
Date: 1/15/2011 1:42:04 PM
Pszczyna Team
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if you have 14 players, but beanerz stated that he wants to have 10 at the beginning

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168997.110 in reply to 168997.109
Date: 1/15/2011 2:14:36 PM
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You can call players up with out enthusiasm drops. You cannot drop players without huring your enthusiasm.

The roster size to start the year would likely be 10 for multiple reasons. First and formost is that the start of our schedule is relatively easy and we will be playing the regulars. Second and perhaps most interesting is the fact that we have quite a few 'bubble' players who are really close to taking over a NT spot. Some of the guys on the NT will not be geting training so they may very well be surpassed by mid to late season. Players will be added as the need arises, just as previous NT managers have done.

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168997.111 in reply to 168997.110
Date: 1/15/2011 3:58:54 PM
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I think instead of the best 2 players for each position, I will change it to the best 2 for for Center and PG and SG but for PF and SF i will take the best outside oritented one/balanced one and then the best inside oriented/balanced one. that way I can set different lineups for each tactic

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