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Perpete:

I only have one 20 y old, yet I'm training three guys. You need to understand that players can be trained after their 21 years. In fact, they have to as players under 22 will never be dominant in D1 and rarely enough to fight with opposition.

Before selling some players recently, I had 7 out 11 players trained in my team. Currently, they are 5 out of 7. Proof that I trained i think.

You also "drafted" players from the TL...
And of course you have "sended scouters" to watch those guys.

The same comparison between "training" old guys and training your drafted players.

KUDOS to your integrity that is rare on this forums.

Regarding your suggestion;
As I wrote there needs to be multiple changes here, in order of making this game more competitiveness.
A team is getting more and more assets (Players, Arena size, etc.) each season, which means that a team that had joined lately will need to wait for those old teams to retire (or to be realy lousy BB-managers), in order of getting to the first divisions.

So, the change is to have more "mature" players at the higher league's draft (meaning players that has higher DMI on average), but that needs to come with a price (as just having better draft players for the higher leagues will make this game even less competitive)...

What is that "price"?
It can be for example - minimum scouting fee from all high divisions leagues.
Another option (in addition or instead) - higher draft players' salaries that (at least the first round) are secured (those players cannot be fired or sell on their first 3 years).

As I already heard here, there are more than few old users that are so bored due to the above reasons, that are intentionaly tanking to be part of a real draft and training.
What does it means about all the "training" those other users claim of performing (as you had quoted)... I'll let others to decide.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/1/2012 4:05:25 PM

Also the NBA bring in nearly finished players, here we get very rough talents.

Not true (and I'm using a very miled expression).
Kobe briant at his first years is not close to the level he played at its prime years.
Same is true about Shaq.
Same is true about lots of other players.
Is there a player in the last two or three drafts that is even at an allstar level right now? No there is not even one.
In few years we will see that there are more than one at that level.

They are not nearly finished players.

Derrick Rose.

Blake Griffin, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love.

Seelenjaeger:

Derrick Rose.

Great, you have found a SINGLE one, and let's see who he is...

He became an allstar last season (at his THIRD season on the NBA), and WILL be much more than that at the future years to come.


Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/1/2012 4:46:57 PM

ok in that case, why you are claiming that first div need stronger draft. The tempo of progression,and the comparision betwen now and the future is pretty small. Shaq get better with the years, but in BB terms that probadly 5-10 skillups* through his career aadding to his starting skills. The BB Michael Jordan would beat the drafted player 12:0 in an one on one quite regulary.

So if you want reality, you probadly need to eliminate todays training. Or do you really think that the real life is even a bit comparable to the player developement and progress ghere and even try to proove this with Shaq etc?**

Allstar is also something about fame, and you ended to build this too ;)

Is it sometimes astonishing how you argue without having a clue, and go on ignorance then.

* which could be also explained by the raised experience which you couldn't train here. But it is rare that someone without a shooting touch get an dead eyed 3 point shooter the way every dead eyed three point shooter experienced.

** since it is so ridicoulous shaq made his career high rebounding and blocking average in his first season, scored pitiful 23 points in a team who wasn't yet designed to his power. And not forget beside he was so far away from the allstar level at those point, he made it into the all star team.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/1/2012 5:28:28 PM

You said name one. I named one. Crybaby-mode again?

i think in BB we have enough talent already here, i mean finished player are nearly worth nothing so a increase in the existing talent will just raise the minimum requirement to train.

I totally agree. I am not asking for an increase in the numbers of 7k draftees or HoF potential players at all. All I am asking is that the players that you draft not constantly be $2k role players. We both know that a 19 year old $4k all star will sell after the draft for less that $10,000 but to draft someone like that is still unlikely. Even a correct height 18 year old $3.5k pallstar will probably sell after the draft for less than $20,000 but I have spent $20,000 a week since season 10 and while I have drafted some insane players to sell, I have never drafted one like that for me to train.

I have made money back on the draft selling amazing players that were not suitable for my team, but how can it be that $20,000 a week x 14 weeks x 7 seasons ($1960 spent on the draft) nearly $2,000,000 of scouting has never given me a single player drafted by my team as good as one I could pick up from the TL for $20,000?

It the beginning all players were allstar* potential. So every draft pick was good. Many of the old great drafted players still on their teams were from this time.

I am not asking for the top to be changed at all, just that it be made possible that you can train your own draft picks.

Heck, I will have first pick in the draft this season and I have scouted every single 18 year old and their is not one short one (under 6'10") with three ball skills and four ball potential or higher. The best I can hope for is grab a star potential player or draft a big man to sell yet again.

$2,000,000 to find a player worth $20,000 and still failed. The balance is wrong.

We were over this once before. You have drafted something great earlier aswell. You just have to change your training plan if you want to train your own draftee. Why is this so hard for you?
It's like drafting D.Rose and selling/trading him for S.Nash, because you want a veteran backcourt, while training Noah and Boozer.

It was proven void, as always. And as always, you could not face with that...