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Does the player market hinder user growth?

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288717.105 in reply to 288717.99
Date: 9/4/2017 7:14:50 AM
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My team is the proof that you are wrong. You can make a competitive team in 3 seasons.
lol sure, competitive for D3 (y). You are living proof that if you want to catch up:
a) You need to daytrade even within the current limits set by the game
b) You need to be a lucky sod who randomly gets a 18yo Hall of Famer in the draft with the 22nd pick without scouting and sells it for nearly 6 million

So yes, you are talking about competing (in D4 and D3) when you got 6 million cash randomly granted to you and you make another coupl of millions from trading. 6 million is enough to buy a D4 title and field a solid D3 team, sure. You can probably buy a couple of D1 starters who are not 32yo or 1 good (130 TSP) young player (26-27yo). That's about it.

You will enjoy if you play against managers that are similar to you. You don't need to be in div.1. Put new managers together and they will enjoy from day 1.
Let me rephrase. Nobody will want to be stuck in lower leagues unless they repeatedly win the lottery or need to spend an ungodly amount of time on the transfer list.

Too late for managers with almost completed trainees which will want to sell in one or two seasons.
Nonsense. If you boost training, everyone training will benefit. I have 3 trainees (28yo) on one team and 5 on the other (19, 2x20, 22, 28), why wouldn't I benefit if, say, they make my own trainees play better when they play for the team who trained them? Why wouldn't I benefit if training was going to get 10% faster? Assuming all players go to the cap the only thing that would happen is that everyone gets there 10% faster. It's very simple.

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288717.106 in reply to 288717.102
Date: 9/4/2017 7:16:27 AM
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Didn't see your post, but yes and he got him in the second round without scouting...

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288717.107 in reply to 288717.103
Date: 9/4/2017 7:27:57 AM
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I was already fine before the draft.
Fine?

Your team went from 9-13 and -243 PD (and very likely demotion if an Utopia style system was implemented instead of the hybrid) to 15-5 and +318 PD

And guess what? You spent $6.24 million on 4 starters after making $5.86 million from the sale of the lucky #22 draft pick. Surely the 2 things have nothing to do with each other, why would they...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 7:34:04 AM

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288717.109 in reply to 288717.108
Date: 9/4/2017 8:41:18 AM
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Spanish D3 is comparable to English D1
lol sure. D3 in Spain is comparable to D3 everywhere else where there are enough human managers and is not comparable to D2 or D1 elsewhere. You are a D3 manager. Not to worry I was there too 15 seasons ago and most of us have been there when the game wasn't dying and had 3x the number of managers as today. What do you want? An applause for promoting from a bot league (2 bots and 1 quasi bot) in a game slowly dying?? Smh

You have done bad scouting. I had already achieved permanence in div3 before that draft. I
nah you would have demoted back to D4 if Utopia rules were implemented as Marin initially wanted to as you would have played relegation without HCA against a better team. It even took you 3 games to stay up with HCA. You should go find the thread where they made Marin change his mind and thank everyone for saving you!

You should know that daytrading is impossible due to taxes. You are showing the poor level of understanding of the game in English D1.
Daytrading is not impossible, playing the Transfer List IS daytrading, which is what you did and even then you'd have a negative balance in the transfers without getting lucky in the draft.

Daytrading is still possible both as it once was (almost) and in the moderate way you are doing it (waiting for taxes to reduce). You want to see who used to do it every single season and now does it slightly less frequently in a slightly changed way? Darkonza (162788).

If you use your brain, you will see that daytrading as people were doing it (buy players very cheaply and resell them at 50x the price) is still possible because when you list 30 players, you will only be affected by the number of sales prior to the listing. You buy 30 players and you list them after 3 days and all will go with a 40% tax. After that you need to wait a season for these sales to be excluded from the calculation.

The real reason why daytrading, even this kind, is done less and less is that prices make it harder to make a profit nowadays. It's harder to find high potential players you can spend 1k-30k on. Also some hardcore daytraders quit.

You are stuck in English div1 which is a lower league. But that is a completely different issue.
Is this what you tell yourself? And you believe it? D1>>D3. It's obvious! You should add a honorific when addressing people who have been or are in D2 and D1. When you get there we can talk as equals :). And yes I'm stuck here because I can't go any higher...you? Smh

If everyone benefit, nobody benefits.
lolol sure. If nobody benefits there is no reason to oppose the proposals, wouldn't you agree? Then support the porposals, thank you. Smh

You can find in the market a lot of players that have been sold for less than their initial price, after several seasons of training. That is a real problem, specially for relatively new managers training their first group of trainees.
Dude you don't train, what makes you an expert about training? smh

However I'm gonna say this: inflation was created with the key aim of making training profitable. Now since you are the repository of understanding, my dear Jung Freud, it seems that according to you (who doesn't train) that is not the case. So make a post about how training is not profitable because of high prices, so we can all have a laugh either at Marin or at you. Cheerios

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 8:57:18 AM

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288717.111 in reply to 288717.110
Date: 9/4/2017 8:59:40 AM
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Sure except I didn't start when there were less than 200 users, genius...I thought I already explained, but evidently not.

Also as already explained to others in the past, you cannot make the equivalence to 10 in a 300 people country and 100 in a 3000 country. You may say that I wouldn't have climbed to #2 in England and low #100s globally (which I was and in a game with more managers) if I played Spain, but you wouldn't be able to provide any proof for that. It's your subjective opinion. In your case however, we all have proof you never even come close to #2 in Spain because you never even cracked #110 in Spain. Do you understand? It's basic, you should be able to...

If you fail understand this, there is not much I can help you with. And I have 5 promotions all obtained while training, 4 of which from non-bot leagues (in the first I had 3 bots like you), while you have....zero promotions from non-bot leagues and zero promotions while training!!! A huge round of applause for Evaristo who has yet to accomplish anything relevant, training-wise or winning-wise, and thinks he's hot stuff because he got $6 million falling in his lap and should explain how this game works to managers who have accomplished things both training-wise and winning-wise and have seen the rise and fall in numbers!!!

Congratulations. Wait, do you know a bit about psychology by being a doctor or a patient?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 9:18:23 AM

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