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67212.103 in reply to 67212.102
Date: 1/7/2009 11:52:31 AM
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Don't you get it? SF can play as PF or as SG. If you want him to play at SF you need to use 3 spot training. My SF can play those spots easily so perhaps look at the TL to get a better suited SF before you start to train him.
SF is all around player so he should be able to play all those positions just like PF can play SF and SG can play SF.
Adapt!

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67212.104 in reply to 67212.103
Date: 1/7/2009 12:09:14 PM
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and you now ant to tell me this?I am training a great SF,i know how he had to play...but i could train and my players could play in both the roles because i'm not in an high division,so i not lose so much.But if i need in post season for example to train him,i cannot risk to lose playoff because of it,i could have the possibility to make him play in his position

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67212.105 in reply to 67212.104
Date: 1/7/2009 12:20:01 PM
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Wow!
So ok once again because you can't seem to understand. When you want to play your SF at SF spot and get training (when there are extream Important playoff games etc) then use 3 spot training or train SF in something else that week(s). If you are not afraid of losing and your most important thing is to train that one player then you could play him at a spot that has single spot training.
Now I am done with this topic about let's make this game simple so it will not be a challenge. What I like here is that there is no easy way out and you have to think and make long run plans.
This topic is moving in the direction that every spot has to have 1 spot training in every skill available in this game. <- if SF get's single spot training and whiners win then it will eventually come to the previously explained outcome (read before the arrow).

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67212.107 in reply to 67212.105
Date: 1/7/2009 12:34:28 PM
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This topic is moving in the direction that every spot has to have 1 spot training in every skill available in this game. <- if SF get's single spot training and whiners win then it will eventually come to the previously explained outcome (read before the arrow).

I understand,but i dont'agree with you
If a player could make a pop in Id in three wekks and in OD in another three weeks,with the new training he make 2 pops,one in Id and one in Od in six weeks,rand there are not so great advantages also because i could train only two players,so this training regime it's only a way to make possible(not to make this as THE PERFECT CHOISE)to play for a SF in his role,rather in a long run it is a disadvantage because with this system however i had to have good trainees in both departments,so my team will growing faster
And you continue to say that with 3 spot training is possible to train a player...
This it's not right and not good...

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67212.108 in reply to 67212.105
Date: 1/7/2009 1:26:42 PM
Le Cotiche
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as a former SF trainer i think the problem is NOT playing the SF as SG/PF. they have the skills to be ok in the role
the real problem is you also have to play your SG/PF as SF

as now i stopped training SF because i got promoted from IV to III
i shifted to a PF/C training regime because in III putting my players out of role would mean automatically relegation

From: docend24

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67212.109 in reply to 67212.73
Date: 1/7/2009 1:53:03 PM
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And just about what percentage of time did Pippen or Lebron spend at center to work on their inside defense skills? Little to none, really? Huh, must have had a high level trainer to 3 position train them up so fast.

Because in reality big man coach or other specailist would take them aside in practice to show them things and let them learn it properly in practices. Unlike in BB in reality you don't need to play it out much in games to improve. In reality you either have it or not ypu can't tech some things. In BB you have a choice to train player in anything you want and he will improve (sooner or later if not really old), you can't do that in reality right? You can make point forward like Diaw is from anybody in this game - it is just not rentable in some cases. You can't teach that feel for the game to anybody in reality.

There are no real practices in the game so you have to simulate it by giving a playing time at realted positions. Otherwise you would have to add hidden attributes to players or let anybody learn everything at the same rated with ease. Current system is maybe strange but it is challenging and works.

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67212.110 in reply to 67212.97
Date: 1/7/2009 2:07:25 PM
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Buzzerbeater needs to have cheerleaders that affect the morale of the team at home games and for the squads that cost more (of course we'll be bidding on them) they will sometimes even travel with the team for help with enthusiasm on the road.

It is already implemetned - check PR manager specialities. Who do you think hires all that good-looking girls? It is called Crowd Involvement.

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67212.111 in reply to 67212.106
Date: 1/7/2009 2:15:51 PM
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I just think look at it this way - if you want to improve a player in some skill neeeded in game for example teach Gerald Wallace to shoot treys better or Adam Morrison to rebound, you would focus on that in practices. It could result in slight damge in other things as the player is trying to do it right and can be confused a bit in the beginning. In BB where we can't adjust line up to mismatch etc. this damage is represented by a need of playing the player on a different position - let say in reality the player plays at the same spot but he is concentrating on differetn things in a game - those who is learning, those in which is trained.

And teams where a lot of learning occurs tend to play worse at first - check Larry Brown's teams in their very first months.

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67212.112 in reply to 67212.111
Date: 1/7/2009 2:28:27 PM
New York Chunks
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Larry Brown isn't trying to teach a PG how to rebound like a C. He's trying to teach a PG to play like how he wants his PG to play, not to play out of position.

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
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67212.113 in reply to 67212.112
Date: 1/7/2009 2:35:05 PM
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He is trying to teach all players how to play efficiently in the system. PG is just very important part of it. But that discussion would be off topic. Trust me, I'm va Bobcats' fan.

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