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Testing the "empty lineup prevention" code in Private League matches

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259887.105 in reply to 259887.1
Date: 7/20/2014 3:59:04 PM
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Hello,

this is how I played from season 2 to season 18 in Brazil, playing more than 10 seasons in the first league, winning the cup once, being league runner up twice, being u-21 coach and training quite a few successful NT players from many nationalities:

9 players
1 starter 1 backup for 4 positions
1 starter no backup for the position I'm training
strictly follow
do not substitute in case of foul trouble

this lead to a lot of sacrifice in terms of team performance, however my training was maximized (90% of time I was able to train 3 players/week in a single position). an excellent tradeoff.

after almost 2 years I came back to BB and it is still the greatest online game ever.

i would like to know if this new engine would prevent me to train my players like described above. let me know asap, please. if yes i'll just quit right now. thx.

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259887.106 in reply to 259887.105
Date: 7/25/2014 3:25:11 PM
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Another week, another test, both games with LCD:

Utopia team: (72396928)

12 players were selected to play.

The lineup was set this way:

PG: Buchwald / Buchwald / Buchwald
all other slots were empty.

That's the lineup taken from the play-by-play:
POS Starting-Five
PG J. Zozaya
SG J. Selva
SF B. Penkov
PF G. Marasco
C G. Walsh

Buchwald played 11 mins as Center.

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First team: (71938051)

12 players were selected to play.

The lineup was set this way:

PG: Stoebner / Stoebner / Stoebner
SG: empty
SF: - / Wildenhain / Wildenhain
PF: empty
C: empty

That's the lineup taken from the play-by-play:

POS Starting-Five
PG S. Harberg
SG R. Geugelin
SF G. Quellmelz
PF T. Harjans
C S. Hirschvogl

Stoebner played 15 minutes as PG, Wildenhain played 11 mins as C.

Still the same things happening as last week. Any idea?

Last edited by LA-Karangula at 7/25/2014 3:25:53 PM

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259887.107 in reply to 259887.106
Date: 8/1/2014 3:11:19 PM
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Another week - the next tests:

1st team: (71938059)

12 players (all the Germans), coach: let coach decide
lineup set:
PG: Stoebner / Stoebner / Stoebner
SG: -
SF: -
PF: -
C: -

POS Starting-Five
PG S. Harberg
SG R. Geugelin
SF G. Quellmelz
PF T. Harjans
C S. Hirschvogl

Stoebner played 37 mins as PG though. But Harberg was injured after 10 mins. Again my lineup was overridden by the coach.

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Utopia match:

12 players (all the Germans), coach: let coach decide
lineup set:
PG: Nikifarau / Nikifarau / -
SG: -
SF: -
PF: -
C: Buchwald / Buchwald / -

POS Starting-Five
PG J. Zozaya
SG G. Miljković
SF B. Penkov
PF G. Marasco
C P. Buchwald

Nikifarau played 2 mins as SF, Buchwald played 39 mins as C. If I remember correctly my lineup shouldn't have been considered as a blank lineup and left alone by the blank lineup prevention.

But again my decisions were ignored by the coach!

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259887.108 in reply to 259887.107
Date: 8/1/2014 8:59:36 PM
Delta 9
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Euphoria Seekers
Don't lose the blank lineup !! With it may go the game ...

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259887.109 in reply to 259887.108
Date: 8/6/2014 4:35:35 PM
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Just a quick question. I've never used a blank lineup, (at least I don't think so) how does everybody use them? What are the positives?

Thanks

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259887.115 in reply to 259887.114
Date: 8/29/2014 2:42:13 PM
TrenseRI
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ChiLeaders
As I already posted in the bugs forum, a big bug was revealed which turned on empty depth chart prevention code for both teams if either set a empty lineup. This is a big problem and renders much of the testing findings problematic if not unusable, but the bigger problem is that it really affected the PL match results and made PL matches very unpredictable.

I am very sorry for this bug, I take full responsibility. As I said in the bugs forum, we had to test is somehow, and we chose PL matches exactly because these kind of situations can arise. Imagine what would happen if we chose to use scrimmages...

Again, my apologies for the bug everyone, I think I fixed it now but we still need to test that.

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