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26712.107 in reply to 26712.106
Date: 1/16/2009 2:51:53 PM
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This doesn't answer your question, but perhaps it's worth mentioning that I run Let Coach Decide and have done so for as long as I can remember. I've never had one of these problems.

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26712.108 in reply to 26712.106
Date: 1/16/2009 5:55:59 PM
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I think you are wrong, because "depth chart until 4th Q means use the lineup(starts) until 4th Q and then use the backup. It is or not?

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26712.109 in reply to 26712.108
Date: 1/17/2009 10:53:05 AM
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I think you are wrong, because "depth chart until 4th Q means use the lineup(starts) until 4th Q and then use the backup. It is or not?

No, it means "use the depth chart until the 4th and then do whatever you think is best". Or at least that's what I think.

Either way, if something is buggy we don't know how it's going to behave anyhow, I guess.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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26712.111 in reply to 26712.110
Date: 1/17/2009 11:14:44 AM
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Wouldn't depth chart until 4th mean:
-first 3 quarters are run using strictly follow depth chart
-final quarter is run using let coach decide

If so, then the starters should never be switched immediately (because it's SFDC)

That's precisely how I thought it works. The question is to isolate some common condition for the starting lineup failure, and there seems to be none yet

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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26712.112 in reply to 26712.111
Date: 1/17/2009 6:15:09 PM
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Wouldn't depth chart until 4th mean:
-first 3 quarters are run using strictly follow depth chart
-final quarter is run using let coach decide

If so, then the starters should never be switched immediately (because it's SFDC)

That's precisely how I thought it works. The question is to isolate some common condition for the starting lineup failure, and there seems to be none yet :/

well, a lot of people specified that they used "Strictly follow deep chart" or "Depth chart chart until 4th" and the match has started with wrong line up.

In my case it happens every week for the friendly. Simply whatever I choose as substitution options, if there is a very better player set as 2nd or 3rd the match start with him as 1st.

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26712.113 in reply to 26712.112
Date: 1/18/2009 9:39:02 AM
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In my case it happens every week for the friendly. Simply whatever I choose as substitution options, if there is a very better player set as 2nd or 3rd the match start with him as 1st.


The same here.

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26712.114 in reply to 26712.113
Date: 1/18/2009 12:03:25 PM
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so you have a good player A and a bad player B

you put B as starter, A as backup

but in the match report A shows up as starter

does A get the playing time he normally would as a starter with B as a backup? or does B get more time than he normally would if he were a backup?

i know it sounds like a funny question, but depending on the answer it points me towards one reason or another.

From: Amaral.
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26712.115 in reply to 26712.114
Date: 1/18/2009 3:28:35 PM
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A get normally time would as a starter and B don't get more time than he normally would if he were a backup.

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26712.116 in reply to 26712.115
Date: 1/18/2009 3:36:34 PM
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can i get other opinions on this point.. i cant stress enough how much this would help localize the bug.

two caveats... if player B were a backup normally would he get any time? and is he getting no time now?

this result is confusing to me because you are saying that this a) only happens when B is starting instead of A... so it only happens when you try to start a worse player

so perhaps the coach is overrulling you as to who should start... but then you are saying it is as if the depth chart was never even loaded correctly because you can't see ANY effect on Bs minutes.

see either the IO is broken and the coach is getting the wrong orders, or the coach is implementing the orders incorrectly.

the fact that this only happens when B is set to start would lead me to believe it is the coach implementing the orders incorrectly, on the other hand if you see no effect it makes me think the coach never got the orders in the first place. (that isnt to say you didnt submit the tactics, but somewhere along the data chain they got dropped).

The first observation could be because people always have the default lineup be their best players and then its these modifications that put their worse players first which are getting missed and then the coach gets the default orders instead.... anyway... please if people can look closely and see if what bruno says holds for them.

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26712.117 in reply to 26712.116
Date: 1/18/2009 3:49:38 PM
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Yes, B normally would get time when he were a backup.
And no, he is getting time now.



Sorry for my english and I hope I have understood what you asked and answer what you asked.

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