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Too many changes.

We are playing a new game now. Return the old engine or change it more slowly.

After watching the matches of the first spanish league, it seems that BB seems out of control. Many users claimed that this "another game", and not longer BuzzerBeater.

The equilibrium is always something very unstable. Small changes can destroy it. Too many changes make the result unpredictable for developers and of course to users that very hardly had understood the old one.

Every "innocent" change may have unexpected side-effects and of course new bugs because of human mistakes.

Example: More assisted shots just to make the game more realistic seemed a good idea, but ---> The effectiveness of the defense is completely destroyed (and this was one of the best BB features... defense works!). It is probably necessary to decrease the quality of the assisted shots.

Maybe it is too early to have an opinion of the new GE, but too many changes at same time will surely lead to disaster, and does not seem a good working policy.

The only match with few 3P shots was mine because I have set a zone 3-2 against a Look Inside offensive tactic...

I guess the assisted shots are bypassing the inside focus because the quality of these shots is good enough despite the chosen tactic. Defense is dead, so who cares about the offensive tactic?

Defense is dead and zone defenses are dead as well. In a couple of weeks the 90% of the BB teams would choice man to man if they don't want to drive mad.

I totally agree with ebustelo.

This new game engine is not realistic. You tried to put more assitances just to do it more real, but that fact is that now you can score 30-50 points in one period of time and the level of passing are the same, so i dont see any sense in that improvement in the game engine.

Another thing, is that there are MANY rebounds per game, when on NBA there are not a lot of rebounds, do you find 60-80 rebouds is a good number of rebounds x game?

And all this game engine changes affected to the defense. Yes it did. It's not possible that a center defends a 3shoot like 6-9 times in the match, even if you are defending man to man or zone it doesnt matter because it happened.

You wanted to do a brilliant new game engine and u finally ended with a new game, really so far from the BB we all know. Buzzerbeater was a great game because we all found that the old game engine was cool and great maybe some changes were needed, but you can not change it that way, with no time and what is worst, you dindt listen the community that adviced you before with the bugs/problems with this motor engine.

The spanish community feeling, is that if that continues a lot of managers will leave BB because its a different game and that would be a shame

To conclude, as a member of u21 Spanish staff, i dont want to imagine what will happen this monday with all the national teams matches, im sure we will see a lot of irrealistic scores.

For those who claim about the fact that PF/C in the nwe GE have to defend so many 3 point attempts I´ll give you a trick: set your best perimeter defenders in those positions and you´ll get the answer to your problems.:P

Next trick "how to defend 3 point attempts and don´t lose rebounds" in the next chapter of "making BB a funny game" :P.

My match was "normal" but I´ve seen other matches and.....I was really shocked!

BB-developers, please, revise the new enviroment and think about if this way is the correct way. We had a stable GE, we have nothing serious right now. I undestand that all the changes were implemented to improve a good thing to make it better, but sometimes the result can be other. If I were you I´d come back to the old GE, I´d test things you consider that can be improved on the GE, I´d improve other game aspects (graphics [forgotten years ago], supporter features, marketing,...), but take it easy!

Obviously, I´m not a BB-Boss (B3 :D), so do whatever you consider right, but I´m afraid of loads of managers get lost with the game, and leave our community.

Bye ;)




Last edited by Mr.Mac at 6/6/2009 8:26:10 PM

My team is destroyed, economic of my team too. Why i need good PF/C, why im training about 1 season? For what? Okey i have good SG and not bad PG, but when i saw my league results... What can i say... i played 4 seasons, and now i see that all goint to @#%$@%. Older GE was good enought, but new one.. its nonsence... rally... i thing that alot of players just leave. Anda what the chois now? Rebuil all team. Sell C/PF and buy uber PG/SG. I trained C/PF for selling, and now im in deep shet, becouse cost of these players are low.

Seems that with new GE to win away match is MUCH more harder....

this all situation reminds me HT when at the beginning it was very good game but later when changes came after the changes the game was not playable anymore...and thats why I quit it....and came to play BB but now it seem that BB's are going the same direction...making game also very complicated and not playable anymore....

For example why my PG in todays match took a lots of shots against opponents C and PF? all the time was like PG vs PG SG vs SG and so on.....