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219023.108 in reply to 219023.105
Date: 7/24/2012 6:21:33 PM
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Also there are in reality manager who are better or worse, in getting the max paycheck.



Precisely my point. The skills of the players are not what is subjective. Guy gets traded mid-season, his skills are not different for the one team vs the other. His skills are the same. The one coach just might utilize him differently than the other.


Not CrazyEye, but Thelonious guy

Is jumping a statistic or a skill? I'm pretty sure I explained very clearly what I meant... GM-Crazyeye got it. If its confusing though, I will re-phrase it.

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Date: 7/25/2012 2:50:16 AM
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..which means the fan survey needs to be modified, even if it is slightly.

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Date: 7/25/2012 6:12:38 AM
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If skills were objective, then why do people seem unable to come together and decide what's Joe Johnson's value? Or who of Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitski is the best player? Or whether or not Oscar Robertson would outplay Tyreke Evans...

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Date: 7/25/2012 6:51:22 AM
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If skills were objective, then why do people seem unable to come together and decide what's Joe Johnson's value? Or who of Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitski is the best player? Or whether or not Oscar Robertson would outplay Tyreke Evans...


The skills themselves are objective.

People unable to decide, etc. People's opinion, etc. Are subjective.

The only argument for skills changing/subjective are Altitude effect, Aging, and Practice.

Determining Joe Johnson's value... well, Joe Johnson is more valuable in a offense that doesn't have him posting up in the paint, agree or disagree? Or where he could be more of a catch and shoot like Stojakovic, agree or disagree? Or, maybe you iso him and let him think he's Carmello, agree or disagree?

In all those situations there... Joe Johnson's skills are no different. They are the same skills Joe Johnson has period. However, you'd get 3 very different forms of production in those 3 different situations.

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219023.112 in reply to 219023.111
Date: 7/25/2012 7:09:22 AM
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The skills themselves are objective.

People unable to decide, etc. People's opinion, etc. Are subjective.

Why not, it's another way to say the same thing. What matters is that they are not available to anyone, unlike here.

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Date: 7/25/2012 10:53:10 AM
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We may have discussions about it, but I think most here agree that salary is far less indicative than say, skillcount to determine who is the best player.

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219023.116 in reply to 219023.113
Date: 7/25/2012 10:58:50 AM
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An increase in salary floor is needed at least in the highest divisions of each country. Believe me, you can't win a league if you are under the salary floor here.

Instead of forcing teams to spend money (and buy Ben Wallace-like players who earn twice as much as the starting center) we should prevent teams from making easy money in the first place! We give them money and then we put a salary floor. Just don't give them the money to begin with!

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Date: 7/25/2012 11:07:27 AM
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An increase in salary floor is needed at least in the highest divisions of each country. Believe me, you can't win a league if you are under the salary floor here.

Instead of forcing teams to spend money (and buy Ben Wallace-like players who earn twice as much as the starting center) we should prevent teams from making easy money in the first place! We give them money and then we put a salary floor. Just don't give them the money to begin with!


and then tankers become a one on one championship ;9