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210204.109 in reply to 210204.108
Date: 3/13/2012 7:05:24 AM
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Final opinion: RakBA is typical outside-based Motion team with two important disctinctions:

1. His PG is the best shooter on team, while a typical Motion team should probably place his best shooter at SG. This didn't hurt his game though as his PG had a high enough passing to dish the ball in situations where shooting the ball wasn't the best option.

2. His SG has high passing, so as PG he was also doing double-duty by shooting and passing quite a lot.
RakBa team doesn't have a player whose passing woud be his best offensive skill, so we can't see if a player would prefer to pass the ball rather than shoot based on his skills. However, this team will serve as a good comparison for others that are coming.

How would he fare against high OD teams? His offense focuses on his PG and SG (and SF to a lesser extent) who have high JR, which means they take a lot of outside shots. As we know, high OD stops outside shots very well, so this is what happens:

(39032025)

I haven't been able to understand one thing though. If a player has very little pass attempts, it means either he has bad passing skill or the player guarding him has much higher outside defense OR he has a high chance to score so he doesn't want ot pass. I think neither is true in three games I analyzed, so the question is:

Why did SF have only 2 pass attempts here (42308436), 2 pass attempts here (42354975) and only 1 pass attempt here (42605117)?

Last edited by Koperboy at 3/13/2012 7:23:58 AM

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210204.111 in reply to 210204.110
Date: 3/13/2012 8:45:38 AM
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Haha...right.

:)

Maybe he had such a mismatch he couldn't pass an opportunity to shoot. It's tough to evaluate that now because we can't see game shapes of two players.

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210204.112 in reply to 210204.111
Date: 3/13/2012 11:48:14 AM
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Very interesting analysis! Very well done!
This will only become more valuable as you analyze more teams (and maybe even some that play R&G and BO to see where differences can be observed.

Either way, keep it up!

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210204.113 in reply to 210204.109
Date: 3/13/2012 1:28:46 PM
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You should try to break it even more against different deffence set-ups and by raw salary est for opponents to have a better understanding and ecpesially this match (39032025) to figure why was this epic fail..

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210204.115 in reply to 210204.111
Date: 3/14/2012 1:12:55 AM
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Awesome analysis! Really interesting. Can't wait to see more!

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210204.117 in reply to 210204.116
Date: 3/14/2012 7:21:51 PM
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I know it's ideal that both big men have some passing (theoretically for Princeton this is a must), but I wonder if it's more necessary for the PF or for the C. I hope this research solves that question.

Last edited by King Calucha at 3/14/2012 7:23:11 PM

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210204.118 in reply to 210204.117
Date: 3/16/2012 11:05:37 AM
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For what I find it more logical, passing is more important to PFs.

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210204.119 in reply to 210204.118
Date: 3/16/2012 12:56:45 PM
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In real life, Motion and Princeton offenses rely on 4 players moving around the ball handler (with certain rules) until one of them gets open for a layup or an outside shot.
- In motion, the ball handler changes in each rotation.
- In Princeton, generally it's a big man.

Since in BB's outside offenses most of the shots are taken by the PG, SG, SF and PF, the most logical conclusion would be that the ball handler is the C (at least in Princeton).

However, I've learned that some things in BB don't make much sense compared to real life situations. Could you elaborate a little further on your argument?

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