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151901.11 in reply to 151901.10
Date: 8/10/2010 9:35:37 AM
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We talk about national team players here - in my opinion such a rule would only benefit small countries as they could get hold of players who are to bad to play for their original country (I seriously doubt the top10-nations will start to convert Jamaicans and Kazhaks) but still top of the crop for some smaller countries.

Example: Ghana would love to get some players in the 30k+ salary range, whereas France/China/Italy maybe wouldnt even consider them to play in the U21.

I would like to see such a feature, but I think it is impossible to make it happen in this game.

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151901.12 in reply to 151901.11
Date: 8/10/2010 10:28:53 AM
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So BC Jamaica team would get great Italian talent, train him in the league for a several season (lets say 5) and then he can get a Jamaican nationality.

Personally I dont have nothing against this thing, it could really help get NT games more interesting. However I dont think that small countries should have right to suck talents from bigger nations just like that. There has to be something like Italian team has the right to put that player into his roster, if he was fired from Jamaican NT season ago.

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151901.13 in reply to 151901.11
Date: 8/10/2010 11:47:05 AM
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While the intentions are good, there is nothing to stop it from converting all other players that will become eligible.

Using your example, yes Ghana would get some more talent but whats stopping a Ghanaian team deciding to convert a 3k US player that has been on his roster for X number of seasons into a Ghanaian nationality. Certainly such a player would not even make the Ghanaian NT in either case.

Its just not practical to allow all players to be converted when they have been in a country X number of years. Also while there are good intentions for the small teams, you can not restrict the larger countries from not being allowed to do it.

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 8/10/2010 11:51:25 AM

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151901.14 in reply to 151901.13
Date: 8/10/2010 11:50:34 AM
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maybe we could make player fully integrated into a nationality/city after x seasons, so that he still plays for his home NT only but is accepted in his second country because he could gives interviews without a translator etc.

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151901.15 in reply to 151901.14
Date: 8/11/2010 9:19:23 AM
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It's not only about NT, but also about merchandise. Domestic players give much more for merchandise than foreigners. If player after 5 seasons in my team can have second nationality he can bring me additional income of merchandise even if he is playing for NT of his first nationality.
In general I like this idea.

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151901.16 in reply to 151901.15
Date: 8/11/2010 1:26:40 PM
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This is a lousy idea in real life, I don't know why it would improve Buzzerbeater. No way...

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151901.17 in reply to 151901.15
Date: 8/11/2010 9:34:15 PM
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It's not only about NT, but also about merchandise. Domestic players give much more for merchandise than foreigners. If player after 5 seasons in my team can have second nationality he can bring me additional income of merchandise even if he is playing for NT of his first nationality.
In general I like this idea.


I agree - bottom line is the change if implemented successfully would help create more parity at National Team level, it would maybe encourage clubs to buy and keep and phase out trading or consistently upgrading...

Remember the larger nations will always be able to do what the smaller ones can. (ie. Buy up foreign players etc) BUT the difference is they can only allocate the same number of NT roster spots.

Where this would help smaller nations is say I (Japanese team) buy a semi-decent US Trainee...the US NT managers would have to call him and play him at least once to prevent him from ever playing on the Japan team and with many other US trainees chances are if i train him well (but not that well :D) I can keep for 5 seasons, convert and then maybe he'll play for Japan or at least he'll have dual nationality (so I get rewarded with some more merch for the trade off of not trading him)

A US team buys a Japanese (or other smaller nation) trainee... chances are much higher that he will feature if trained reasonably well for the Japan NT so this would mean he could never be converted to a US NT player although again the US team has the benefit that in 5 seasons he too could be considered US by his inherited nationality for merchandise benefits.

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151901.18 in reply to 151901.16
Date: 8/12/2010 5:49:21 AM
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Lousy idea in real life? F.e. how many players played in soccer WC for different country than they were borned?
How many american players in basketball play for different NT?
Maybe it looks like loose idea, but it's quite common.

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151901.20 in reply to 151901.18
Date: 8/12/2010 7:29:20 AM
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How many american players in basketball play for different NT?


max one for each country, and this is mostly based on the limitations of foreign players in lot of european leagues. Thats why lot of player search for european uncles/grand parents etc. to get a european passsport, and that this don't take this long they often had to commit to play for the NT teams(and often don't play a minute in their country for clubs).

Tehri is also the possibility to get it through marriage, but i don't thing that everyone marriage after beiing x year in a country and even then you sometimes have additional restrictions before you could change your nationality.

From: rwystyrk

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151901.21 in reply to 151901.19
Date: 8/12/2010 7:41:11 AM
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You really haven’t understood idea in this thread at all. It’s not about naturalizing players developed by someone else. If we talk about 5 seasons playing in country before possibility of naturalizing, you cannot buy 24 years old developed player for this purpose because he could be naturalized in his 29. It’s about buying young player, train him and maybe once (if former country is not interested in him) you can naturalize him.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 8/12/2010 7:41:26 AM

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