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156825.11 in reply to 156825.10
Date: 9/15/2010 5:05:05 PM
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You could make that point about a player that 18/19 years old, too. What would LeBron James' rookie salary have been? How much would John Wall be worth?

For the purpose of BB, we don't have to be talking about rookie salaries. We don't have to make it so any rookies are coming in at 30k salaries. But I still don't see the big argument against rookies as old as 22 years old.

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156825.12 in reply to 156825.11
Date: 9/15/2010 5:10:32 PM
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But I still don't see the big argument against rookies as old as 22 years old.

Put in the draft 22yold rookies with the same skills of the actual 18yold doesn't have any sense

Put 22 years old with high skill will creat greate unbalance in the draft

I don't see reason why 22 years old should be inserted in the draft,imho,we have yet to improve the 19yold level...


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156825.13 in reply to 156825.11
Date: 9/15/2010 6:22:53 PM
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But I still don't see the big argument against rookies as old as 22 years old.


18/19 year old players can be developed, a 22 year old 10k player with serious deficits (missing crucial skill) can be dumped right away as training such a player would be a waste of time.

22 year old rookies would only make a sense if they would be strong enough to compete on a mediocre-high level (depening on position that would be 25-50k salaries). How can you put those players in the mix?

I imagine a possible draft could look like this:

Pick 1: 18 year old HOF SG 4k salary
Pick 2: 22 year old All-Star PG 50k salary
Pick 3: 19 year old superstar PF 5k salary
Pick 4: 21 year old star 20k SF salary
....

That would create huge imbalance, imo. Instead of putting in older rookies in the game I would remove the 19 year olds and make all players start at the age of 18 (or vice versa, remove the 18yo and make all start at 19).

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156825.14 in reply to 156825.13
Date: 9/15/2010 6:39:58 PM
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or raise the level of the 19 yold(strong as max skill instead of respectable)

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156825.15 in reply to 156825.14
Date: 9/15/2010 10:00:00 PM
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or raise the level of the 19 yold(strong as max skill instead of respectable)


or reduce the one of the 18 year old ;) Training is already worth to less, and the drat shouldn't be stronger then the initial roster.

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156825.16 in reply to 156825.15
Date: 9/16/2010 2:18:33 AM
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Well if there would be more age variants (18-22) there would be logically lesser of these 18y old drafts and as a ideal situation I would see that there would be like only one or two 18y old MVP or something like that. Well, if anybody want to create an ideal player, they have to do something for it.

I think that the point about that you can get 22y old player with some sufficient skills or have in draft better skills overall is logical, but is true that it makes a training even more worthless. And is good that if you have few skillups on a player, it in fact creates a difference.

If there have to be any differences, is the best way to have them downstairs (therefore basic is awful, best is respectable). So you can see more often that 5balls will get mostly players older than 18y and these above 20 would be like that almost everytime. Otherwise logically why they would apply for a place in the team so late, while they didnt get any improvement?

This is connected to theirs nature, maybe they should have different training speed, so if normal player is in his 22y at 70percent of his training speed, drafted player would be on 60percent, but would sustain like that until he will have 28 or like that. So make sense to train them, but maybe with a cheaper trainer and not very intensive.

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156825.17 in reply to 156825.15
Date: 9/16/2010 7:43:15 AM
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or raise the level of the 19 yold(strong as max skill instead of respectable)


or reduce the one of the 18 year old ;).

That's the most unfair thing I've ever seen,about BB.It will be impossible for everyone who is in a low category to reach who is at the top if you reduce the level of the 18yold,that is yet very low for the level of many divisions

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156825.19 in reply to 156825.18
Date: 9/17/2010 9:47:06 AM
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I agree with having some older players in the draft, but I don't think they should have a huge advantage salary-wise over the younger guys. Having guys with like $50k salary coming in the draft completely defeats the purpose of training. You could easily have a 18-yo and a 22-yo with similar skill levels drafted early but still low-salaried. I like your idea of giving them more experience though. Since experience has an "unknown" level of effect on the game it could easily be turned into the "advantage" for drafting older players despite their fewer years in the league.


A 22yo with more experience would be useless to almost any team in this game, especially as long as the impact of XP is unknown and seems to be quite marginal for the lower levels of XP...