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183864.12 in reply to 183864.11
Date: 5/4/2011 9:28:43 AM
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Well i dont know but dont you think it would be rather bad if the game developer hugged the 1st spot in NBBA every season and won the cup every season? I guess Charles knows what is worth knowing about this game but still a fair bit of it is based on chance. So i dont think there is a one way ticket to win in this game but seems you think that way. And it would be rather narrow minded to bunch such a though together with his standing on shot blocking.

The skill is there for a reason and since no one has done any study of SB i dont think we can say how well or bad it works. All that has been happening is someone trained it high and didnt see 10 BLK's / game and started shouting that its broken, to expensive and so on. And that went and became the whole community's standing towards SB.
And it is a fact that it is far from that expensive as many say as it is the cheapest skill amongst the 4 Big Man skills. Just that the effect of training it is not as visible as the other skills.

Wait. Someone has done a study: (173617.1) (That's in a private fed, so if you can't read it, try here: (180713.134) and (180713.147), though the link in the fed is the actual study.)

The cheapest skill among the 4 big man skills is driving. A level of SB costs about half of what a level of ID costs; DR is free.

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183864.14 in reply to 183864.13
Date: 5/4/2011 9:40:56 AM
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Just because nobody trains DR on their bigs doesn't make it a useless skill. And, yes JS is absolutely a big man skill (but it isn't free like DR is).

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Date: 5/4/2011 9:56:03 AM
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He went much more in-depth in the fed, and had a few other posts elsewhere that for the life of me I can't seem to locate right now.

All this isn't to say I don't believe in SB, as most of my bigs have at least 8 SB, I just don't think it's worth the expense or time trained. There are plenty of other skills that can be added to bigs that will give them a definite in-game advantage over their opponents, and those skills are either cheaper then SB, or they're free.

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183864.17 in reply to 183864.14
Date: 5/4/2011 9:57:27 AM
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Just because nobody trains DR on their bigs doesn't make it a useless skill. And, yes JS is absolutely a big man skill (but it isn't free like DR is).


For centers it actually is free. It only increases the PF salary so up to a certain level JS is free for Centers.

Last edited by El Duderino at 5/4/2011 9:57:46 AM

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183864.18 in reply to 183864.17
Date: 5/4/2011 10:00:41 AM
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Just because nobody trains DR on their bigs doesn't make it a useless skill. And, yes JS is absolutely a big man skill (but it isn't free like DR is).


For centers it actually is free. It only increases the PF salary so up to a certain level JS is free for Centers.

That depends on how high you train it. Everything else equal, a Center will become a PF eventually when his JS reaches a certain level.

For instance, a 3x tremendous is still a C with proficient JS, but becomes a PF at prominent.

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183864.19 in reply to 183864.18
Date: 5/4/2011 10:42:57 AM
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That's just what I said. As long as the player's a Center, it's free.

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183864.20 in reply to 183864.19
Date: 5/4/2011 12:09:59 PM
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It's not quite as cut-and-dried as that, because once the player crosses the threshold of JS that makes him switch from C to PF, it requires quite a lot of training to get him to become a C again.

If we take the hypothetical 3x tremendous player from above, and suggest his skills look something like this:

9/4/4/4/4/4/13/13/13/8 (JS/JR/OD/HN/DR/PS/IS/ID/RB/SB)

He's a C, but at 10 JS he becomes a PF. In order to make him a C again (and get his JS skill for nothing), we have to train him until he looks like this:

10/4/4/4/4/4/14/14/15/8 (note that he also becomes a C again with 15 ID rather than 15 RB, but the RB is cheaper)

Whereas we could hypothetically train the same player to 20 in OD, PS, DR or HN without it ever costing a dime or changing his BP.

edit: typo

Last edited by darykjozef at 5/4/2011 12:10:26 PM

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