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209827.11 in reply to 209827.9
Date: 2/13/2012 3:55:12 AM
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Much simpler than that.
A user that wants to join the game define his language.
From that moment he will have every page on that language, so I guess he will not have reason to lie...
Now, the game will set him a BB-league, that is dedicated for his language.
Meaning, in case he wants to be a "English (USA) user", he will find (for example) one of the X different English (USA) speaking BB-nation, and set him to one of their leagues.


i play this game in 3 languages(english(UK), german and german(austria)), and in the begining i prefered english(UK) over the US version.
To make it impossible to change language, especially unseend of the language versions would be really bad in my eyes.

What wouldn't you understand?
It is all about BB?

In addiution, it will open conversation between different Real-nation, that I find it a blessing in any case.


i couldn#t communicate with russian users for example. In germany we have a good scouting system, which is mentoring player with young talents and helping them where they can(and scouts usually take care of groups like 20yo guards so that they know the other existing talents). Now you have to talk to greek, russian, french and german user at one time since you couldn't expect them to speak all languages.
And i am pretty sure, that the gloves team make the same in your country ;)
Not all BB users will find a language to communciate which each other, and it will be always more comfortable in there own language. And those who can or enjoy it, i believe already communicate here across the borders, also through the NT competion(i talked a lot to the glove and rwystyrk through that, and we still chat from time to time).

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209827.12 in reply to 209827.11
Date: 2/13/2012 2:08:47 PM
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To summarize;

You speak German. There will be (number of) leagues for German speakers.
As all leagues will be with the same number of users, it is not really important even to discuss the language used by the users.
Let them choose what language they want to see.

Will it complicate things for the NT coach? Not to much.
As all leagues will have the same (more or less) amount of users, users will prefer joining a league that they could communicate with others.
The few who does will cause a little trouble, but for those few NT that will lose from that there will be much more that will profit from that.

German and France are one of the few huge BB-nations on this game, so we all can understand why one from those BB-nation will tend to oppose.
But when looking into the game's benefit, it is clear that this will improve it on many levels.

Reminder - for example, one of the reasons Japan is not growing is due to that new users are leaving shortly after joining the game, due to the competitiveness issue, that is magnified when they need to enter to the second division.
Putting them with BOT users on the 3rd division is far from being a solution.

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209827.13 in reply to 209827.12
Date: 2/13/2012 2:53:40 PM
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As you know i am for federation, and you know this.

but making it "pools", without national preselection which result in language mix isn't a good idea. Also on medium size nations the patriotic effect brings something to the game. And it will never work, that somebody scout all league by language to find the right pool for himself, normally jooining should something quite fast.

With federation, you can keep a lot of the advantage the national concept approaves with avoiding or smaller the efect of pools.

The problem to implement this later is also overseen.

And this is also something quite different, i mentioned language/time etc. why we don't make everybody to choose there own country by signup.

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209827.14 in reply to 209827.13
Date: 2/13/2012 3:11:39 PM
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Does PL are all from the same "real-nation"? No.

Doesn't Warcraft (for example) allow local users only, on a single game? No, it is not.

Does one will still want is player to be a factor at the BB-"non-real"-nation? Yes he would.

Does all those leagues on smaller real-nation will grow upon that? Yes they will

Will the game be more balanced between BB-nations? Yes they would.
And a more balanced game, brings more users to it.

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209827.15 in reply to 209827.14
Date: 2/13/2012 3:19:11 PM
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Does PL are all from the same "real-nation"? No.


did user didn't know buzzerbeater before searching a PL, and there are many national PL too. Where people look for playing against people with there nativ languages.

Doesn't Warcraft (for example) allow local users only, on a single game? No, it is not.


does BB allow people from different nations to join? Yes.

I didn't play warcraft, but i know that one buddy of me was in a german guild and that isn't rare. But there you can jump from one to another till you find the dudes you like to play with, do you want the same here. Play half a season in this league and switch to then into another one? That wouldn't working, even after season ending.(and even then you couldn't handselect your competitors or enviroment like in warcraft)

Does all those leagues on smaller real-nation will grow upon that? Yes they will


but they would be still ugly to play, especially if you are the only dude in thailand who actually speaks thai and just that.




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209827.18 in reply to 209827.15
Date: 2/13/2012 4:52:26 PM
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Does PL are all from the same "real-nation"? No.

did user didn't know buzzerbeater before searching a PL, and there are many national PL too. Where people look for playing against people with there nativ languages.
You are "going around the bush".
This is not what will make users go from this game.

Doesn't Warcraft (for example) allow local users only, on a single game? No, it is not.

does BB allow people from different nations to join? Yes.
I didn't play warcraft, but i know that one buddy of me was in a german guild and that isn't rare. But there you can jump from one to another till you find the dudes you like to play with, do you want the same here. Play half a season in this league and switch to then into another one? That wouldn't working, even after season ending.(and even then you couldn't handselect your competitors or enviroment like in warcraft)
Still "going aound the bush", and still not facing the fact that my point proved - that the real-nationality is not what mainly affect the groups that are part of a single game / league / etc.

Does all those leagues on smaller real-nation will grow upon that? Yes they will

but they would be still ugly to play, especially if you are the only dude in thailand who actually speaks thai and just that.
Not really. The amount of conversation inside a league is very limited at best.
Thai users, will still have a thai forum (instead of Thai-BB-nation league, or something like that, which currently exists).
The work for the NT coach may be a little bit harder due to conversation, although probably will get assisted translating by other users and such, but will have much better variety of NT players to chose from for that NT team.

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209827.20 in reply to 209827.19
Date: 2/13/2012 4:57:50 PM
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Many managers stay in this game because of the community and the activity in their forum league.


haha true. the game itself is no big reason to stay here anymore. :D

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209827.21 in reply to 209827.20
Date: 2/13/2012 5:10:22 PM
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Many managers stay in this game because of the community and the activity in their forum league.

haha true. the game itself is no big reason to stay here anymore. :D
Nice one :D !!!

In addition, as there can still be a community of Thai speakers, this claim of Perpete is (once again) void.

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