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Way better then you!

Mr. controversial.

Right now this is my prediction as for standings:

West-
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Denver Nuggets
4. San Antonio
5. Memphis Grizzlies
6. Utah Jazz
7. Los Angeles Clippers
8. Golden State

East-
1. Miami Heat
2. Atlanta Hawks
3. New York Knicks
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Boston Celtics
6. Philadelphia 76ers
7. Indiana Pacers
8. Milwaukee Bucks

I know its all predictions, but lets see

West
- Lakers going #1 after losing all preseason games? Perhaps, since its only preseason, but they r old, don't think they'll go all out til POs
- Nuggets at #3? Above the Spurs? I dunno about that, think they'll be on POs 4sho, but much lower
- Griz and Jazz above the Clippers? Clippers at #7? Way underselling them, think they'll be one of the best teams of the West, deep team
- Warriors making it to the POs? I doubt it, even though I love them, the team's still pretty bad

East
- Hawks at #2? Highly doubt it, even though the team is good
- Knicks could be #3, but I still think they won't be too dominat, prolly more like #4-5
- Hard to guess Bulls' position, it all depends on when D Rose comes back, if it's feb or so like they said, they could be even lower
- I think the Celtics, 76ers and even Pacers and Bucks will finish a bit higher. Think the Celtics will be top 3 as long as D Rose is out

The preseason doesn't mean much except how good your bench may be in my opinion. And the Lakers will dominate this season regardless of their age.

The Nuggets are a much better team than the spurs this season, especially since the Spurs have weak bigmen (Excluding Duncan ofcourse) They cannot compete with LAL, MEM, DEN, MIN, LAC and many other teams. Plus they are old too. the only way that they will get a 3rd seed or higher is if the referees are cheating for them for most of their games. Denver has an Allstar worthy PG and SG in Lawson and Igoudala, an amazing bench and four 7 footers on their team for big men. I would not be surprised at all to see Denver have a better record tan SAS.

Memphis beat LAC last year.... they were the 4th seed and LAC was the 5th seed... I don't see why it wouldn't happen again this year. Memphis will finally have Randolph healthy so they will have their bigmen back to beasting and LAC has gotten worse this year due to Billups coming off injury and Mo Williams leaving. Speaking of Mo Williams, he is now on the Jazz who have a good team this year and are very explosive. I'm not sure if they will beat out LAC for the 6th seed but i think that they will be just about as productive as them.

As for Golden State, They are my Wildcard. I couldn't find another team that i felt would definitely make the playoffs and since GS actually has a quality center this year in Andrew Bogut i look for them to do good things. We'll have to see how it goes.

Who would you put at #2 then? After looking at all the teams Atlanta has one of the best starting lineups in the East. With the addition of Lou Williams they will be just as good even though Joe Johnson is gone and the only reason the Hawks finished in the 4-5 seed area is because Horford was out for most of the season. I think they can easily get the 2nd or 3rd seed.

I agree with you on the knicks about them not being too overpowering but i think that they have a lot more depth than last year and if Melo and Amare can stay healthy they could possibly beat out the Bulls for the third seed.

I do not see Boston being higher than a 4th seed and they will be lucky if they can even get the 5th seed in my opinion due to the 76s Pacers and Bucks. I doubt any of those 4 teams will be a 4th seed or higher unless the Bulls decide to really suck it up but you can feel free to disagree.

Who would you put at #2 then? After looking at all the teams Atlanta has one of the best starting lineups in the East. With the addition of Lou Williams they will be just as good even though Joe Johnson is gone and the only reason the Hawks finished in the 4-5 seed area is because Horford was out for most of the season. I think they can easily get the 2nd or 3rd seed.

Yeah,Hawks are going to have one of the best if not the best Frontcourt,they are stacked at PG and SG,they only need to upgrade at SF.

I do not see Boston being higher than a 4th seed and they will be lucky if they can even get the 5th seed in my opinion due to the 76s Pacers and Bucks. I doubt any of those 4 teams will be a 4th seed or higher unless the Bulls decide to really suck it up but you can feel free to disagree.

I agree with everything except for the bucks part,I would have the Cavs,Pistons and Wizards over them.

Memphis beat LAC last year.... they were the 4th seed and LAC was the 5th seed... I don't see why it wouldn't happen again this year. Memphis will finally have Randolph healthy so they will have their bigmen back to beasting and LAC has gotten worse this year due to Billups coming off injury and Mo Williams leaving. Speaking of Mo Williams, he is now on the Jazz who have a good team this year and are very explosive. I'm not sure if they will beat out LAC for the 6th seed but i think that they will be just about as productive as them.

Umm,don't know what playoffs those were but in the NBA it was LAC that beat the Grizzlies.

I was referring to the standings not the actual playoffs since that is what he was arguing about. Memphis sucked in the playoffs against the Clippers but beat them in the regular season according the the standings and the seeding.

Wow, that's a long post. I like the pts u make, so let's see

I have no doubt the Lakers will dominate, but since they r old, I dont think they r gonna go all out til the POs, so believe more on a #2 seed, but wouldnt be surprised if they finish as #1, they have arguably the best team in the league.

The Nuggets have a good team, will make it to the POs no doubt, but they also lost players so I dont think they'll be that strong, and dont know if they are better than the spurs, especially not MUCH better as u said. They could finish ahead os the Spurs, but still dont think they'll finish 3rd, tough to say though, Igoudala is a great player.

I see the LAC much better this yr, I dont see how they got worse, they got good players and the ones that left werent good anyway. Mo didnt do shit, was good to get rid of him, same for Nick Young. I think ur really underselling them, they have a deep team and I think they'll do well during the regular season. Griz have a good team too, might do about as well as last season.

Warriors are the wildcard every season lol... I really hope they make it to the POs, but I dont see it happening actually

Part 2

The East is tough, Miami will finish 1st 4sho, but then it gets complicated to pick #2. The Bulls would be the natural 2nd seed, but with D Rose out its tough to guess how'll they'll do, really depends on how soon he can come back and how healthy he'll be. Celtics are always competitive and could potentially take that 2nd spot although unlikely. The hawks do have a great team and could finish 2nd, I dunno, still think they'll be slightly lower, but that's just a gut feeling, hard to tell.

Knicks have no reason to do poorly except that they've been doing so, if they're healthy and play at their potential I think they'll be one of the powers on the East. The Nets are pretty decent and should make it to the POs although with no chance to make it far anyway.

Pacers and Bucks are decent, but I still think the Celtics will finish above them, they r deeper. Bulls are the big unknown, they could finish 1st (with Rose playing the whole season) or 8th with him out the whole time and the other guys just not doing it. If D Rose is out til feb-march like it has been said, I think they'll finish 4th ir so

We can agree to disagree ;)

I was referring to the standings not the actual playoffs since that is what he was arguing about. Memphis sucked in the playoffs against the Clippers but beat them in the regular season according the the standings and the seeding.

I dont think they sucked, think they werent as good, but also think the LAC did very well on that series, nonetheless it was a very close series...

The Nuggets have a good team, will make it to the POs no doubt, but they also lost players so I dont think they'll be that strong, and dont know if they are better than the spurs, especially not MUCH better as u said. They could finish ahead os the Spurs, but still dont think they'll finish 3rd, tough to say though, Igoudala is a great player.

They traded Affalo for Iggy. Harrington didn't do sh*t so they have a better team than last year.(The team that took the lakers to 7 games.