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Why take a personal/personally aimed attitude toward ideas?

Did you not know what thread you were in when you posted this rant (sorry, not a "rant," a "personal/personally aimed attitude") against the farms? (233219.3)

farm accounts use staff. If they don't...no point in being a farm right?
So look at the staff...find the farms. There are 43k accounts. We could look through them one by one or we could try to identify the 'flags' of what makes a farm a farm.
IF they staff or staffed certain staff...well then that makes it possible they were a farm. If they never had the staff...well then only the draft would be a concern for farming. That is a seperate topic than this suggestion, and they would need to look at draft picks and the buying /selling of 18-19 the first week of seasons to identify this. If the account keeps the farmed player longer they need staff to keep the player relevant for the purposes of the farming/farmers.

It's like it never occurred to you that everyone needs staff. Nor has it occurred to you that there are 3 staff members per team, and there are even more staff members beyond that (a quick check says there are 956 Doctors, 1,073 Trainers, and 1,002 PR-Managers available on the staff market), so it likely also hasn't occurred to you the strict possibility that using staff to find farms would take over 3 times as long as just looking at each team individually.

But please, continue:

After we have identified the staff and those with the staff...

...which is pretty much everyone, go on,

... I think those accounts can be sorted by activity. It shouldn't actually be hard at all to generate reports difinitively identifying what % of the 43k accounts in BB are actively farming players. THe hard part I suppose is not even identifying which are multiple accounts and which are not. The hard part is probably just proving it.

So this wouldn't even do what you want it to, if I'm following you correctly...?

IMO they just need to find some solid evidence proofs, maybe add some fairplay/sportsmanship rules (giving them the ability to shutdown certain accounts and block certain players from FAing). To me an account that hasn't tried to win a game in X number of seasons, hasn't posted in any forum etc. for X number of seasons and has been overpaying for picks and staff and never paid supporter.....should require less burden of proof to be closed. If they say they are a roommate and both teams are very active, fine, probably true. If they say they are roommates and one is active and one is training....Give me a break already and close the 2nd account!!! If its a farm account (never competes, never posts in forums etc. etc.) that only ever signs on via proxies (remote location)....Giveme a break already and close the account. Block the players from ever being FA.
IDENTIFYING these accounts though can be done by looking at more than just transfers....actually you can'T identify really any of these accounts just looking at transfers. We need to also be looking at NT players and staff behavior IMO.

^^^^Read this and tell me where you're talking about your suggestion at all. I'll wait.^^^^

Or, just admit now that you could care less about the staff history of a lvl 4 PR-Manager, and your real suggestion is "I Hate Farms and lvl 7 trainers give me a break and they aren't even trying to win."

Can I ask you a serious question? Where do you get your numbers from? A casual observer would be inclined to think your just make stuff up, since there is no way to prove any of it.

The accounts that would use the staff i am talking about are a very small portion of the 43k users. Maybe 5% tops using teh actual staff and doing teh farm training.

I like your conviction, but a game, where, other then supporter, there is no monetary bonus, I find hard to believe would have that level of cheating. I think a lot more of it has to do with people not understanding how things work in this game. Just my opinion.

So yea if its 43k total as a pool....500 is a bit over 1%. So I said maybe 5% TOPS....its not an exact number, but it is based on a very informed knowledge of the staff I am talking about and how many are even avialable to be staffed vs. the number of accounts globally.

You had me check the amount of banned accounts, they were 109, in the last seven days. That percentage was 0.0025%, not all of those are where for farming players, correct? That is a heckuva jump to 5%, That would over 2100 users. I just don't think that many people are cheaters, especially in a game with zero monetary interests.

I also am not trying to stop your crusade. I just think its a smaller problem then you are imagining.

If the staff had an employment history (transfer history) like the players it might be interesting.

Yes, almost any suggestion that reveals the past and present of my former trainer Homer Pease is a good one.