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I am.confident it is as designed. I can say this as I have seen this posted by more then one BB throughout my time here.

And so did Blanks. Until Marin admitted it was wrong and decided to do something. You sound like the turkey that assumes every day will be like the previous one, because nobody ever notified it that sooner or later it's going to be Thanksgiving.

In fact here we have a very similar problem compared to what we had with blanks. The coach does as he pleases and the results are completely counter-intuitive compared to other features in the game. There is no logical way to defend that a random player not set in the depth chart gets picked to replace a player who is set at that position in the depth chart. None. Either we want to give control to the managers (remove blanks, but also fix the other options, including strictly, thank you) or we want the coach to do what he wants despite the orders from his manager (so please reinstate blanks and leave strictly as it is, thank you).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/29/2015 7:09:40 PM

There is no logical way to defend that a random player not set in the depth chart gets picked to replace a player who is set at that position in the depth chart. None.

True enough. But aspects of training are even more illogical than that and should be a higher priority to fix.

There is no logical way to defend that a random player not set in the depth chart gets picked to replace a player who is set at that position in the depth chart. None.

There are several, but of course many of them are either unsatisfactory to some users or inavoidable. For example:
1. The player is fouled out or ejected. Obviously, someone has to replace him unless you play a four man lineup.
2. The player is injured. See above.
3. You have a huge lead and the game is far from contested, and the coach prefers to minimize the injury risk of the starters.
4. The player is so exhausted that he's literally dead weight on the court.

The thing is, I don't agree that SFDC is bugged, because Marin and Charles and Forrest before him were all forthright that the other substitution options *are* bugged. I still think a major overhaul of the whole sub system is really needed, but of course where that fits on the priority queue for each of us is probably going to be quite different.

1. The player is fouled out or ejected. Obviously, someone has to replace him unless you play a four man lineup.
2. The player is injured. See above.

Please let's be less pedantic shall we? That's not what's being discussed here.

3. You have a huge lead and the game is far from contested, and the coach prefers to minimize the injury risk of the starters.
4. The player is so exhausted that he's literally dead weight on the court.

There is no such thing in real life and probably not in any parallel universe. If you're tired, you don't run, but the coach defying an express order from the management is another issue altogether and warrants sacking. This game is an hybrid but either we accept the coach does what he wants (without being told so) or he has to follow orders set by his general manager. BBs need to be coherent, they can't say, coach does what he wants (without being told so) option: BUG, we don't want it; coach does what he wants (despite specific different orders): OK, all working as intended, we want it. And more to the point you like to leave the coach freedom (ie. you like blanks and you like the fact that the coach subs out players NOT in the depth chart) don't call it "strictly", maybe call it "vaguely" or "tentatively" follow the depth chart.

Marin and Charles and Forrest before him were all forthright that the other substitution options *are* bugged.

Yet Marin fixed blanks tens of seasons after the problem first emerged, because we don't want the coach to decide the substitution pattern...explain to me how double standards work. Also, since when talking about the other tactics means anything about this one? Have they clearly stated anywhere that SFDC is NOT bugged? If they did, have they explained why it is described in a different way in the Game Manual? We need links.

I surely thought I didn't have to remind GMs what the Game manual says, but since we like to be pedantic:

Substitution Pattern
The coach will sometimes use his own judgment to decide what the proper balance is between starters, backups, reserves, and even players on the bench but not in the depth chart at all. You can set the balance between how much coaches use their own judgment or defer to yours with the substitutions box. You can use entirely your judgment (Strictly Follow Depth Chart), entirely the coach's judgment (Let Coach Decide), a mix between the two (Coach Picks from Depth Chart), or you can use your depth chart strictly until the 4th quarter, then tell the coach to try and win the game however he thinks is best (Depth Chart until 4th).

So how much the coach uses his judjement > strictly > coach uses entirely your judgement (and does not use his own at all)


Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/30/2015 6:42:06 AM

So once again I encourage anyone that thinks this is s bug to post in the correct place about it. Or anyone that thinks it isn't a bug but still would like it changed to make a suggestion about that instead.

I encourage the BBs (BB-Marin) to clarify once and for all if this is intended or not as he did with blanks. It's been reported multiple times. If it is intended then he must fix the wording in the game manual and only then we will use the suggestion thread. If it isn't then it is a bug and that's where it should be addressed.

There have been countless of posts about this you want us to make more? I can make one every day the bug happens until I get an answer. That will force you or Perpete to collapse threads, are you encouraging us to do that? I'll get started on that, because otherwise it looks like I just make empty statements, like the one about the pillory thread (which I have ready, but never posted).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/30/2015 6:28:42 AM

Not me, I'm opening my 001 thread to the bug forums just now. In the future, I'm gonna report it every time I see it happening until the issue is addressed or the Game Manual is changed.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/30/2015 6:25:22 AM